It's definitely extra greeze. I didn't use delay or verb for years, then watched too many Lukather vids, lol. Love the guy, but can't/don't play anything like him. Unfortunately I liked how it sounded though. I like one slap now, very low mixed. It gives it a bigger room effect. I went through a ton of delay and reverb pedals though, just to find something that worked in front, without being too much for what I wanted. Most pedals, it's off, or yuck. I'm sure there are more, but Strymon and Eventide are the only pedals that I've used that work for my purpose.