So, I'm thinking of getting one of these Diezel things...

[RJF]

[ OWNING the TJ makes me steer clear of the Herbster (for now), and therefore, own a V.

Explain this to me..... I planned on the TJ being my next new amp, so why would a guy want a VH4 over the Herbert if he has experience/owns an Uberschall?

 

[Ventura]

I'll answer both questions posed above:

1. As for cabinet and speakers matched to the V series of Diezel amps, I think it is VERY safe to say, several have tried to wander outside all that is Diezel in their pursuit for something different. In the end, every individual who went with the Front Loaded 4x12 with G12K100's was 100% absolutely torn to shreds and blown away. I am one of those people, and I KNOW Pauly will chime in here as well... And probably everyone else. They are torrid sounding cabinets with potency that is out-of-this-world. Just do it. And NO, I do not work for Diezel

2. Having an Uberschall steered me away from buying a Herbert due to the fact that I found the Uberschall TJ offered a looser, easier playability, ultra high gain tone with tremendous low end and lots of dynamics. Having already in my possession the VH4S, which is, as I've said before - surgically tight and immensely powerful and super articulate, my Diezel tone was satisfied right there. The Uberschall TJ is a player's amp, there's some flex to it, and it offers a lot of what the Herbert does (in this application of hi-gain, thrash, metal-drome voicings). The Herbert also offers a lot of other great stuff - but I get a lot of that other great stuff with my V. So, rather than overlap "great stuff" with two amps, I went with one VH4S and one Twin Jet Uberschall, and between the 2 of them, I get anything I want. To me, personally, if I owned 1 Uberschall and 1 Herbert, I would, in essence, only own 1.5 amps - if that makes any sense.

Peace,V.

 

[RJF]

I was under the impression that the Herbert was only a fraction looser than the VH4? Hardly even noticeable. Is the VH4 really that much, actually noticeably tighter than the Herbert?

 

[FourT6and2]

I was under the impression that the Herbert was only a fraction looser than the VH4? Hardly even noticeable. Is the VH4 really that much, actually noticeably tighter than the Herbert?

Yes. It's noticeable, especially when played side-by-side. The VH4's compression adds to the perceived tightness as well. The VH4 sounds almost like it has a built in noise-gate sometimes. You stop playing and it stops almost before you mute. But, dynamics are not affected somehow!

 

[insignificant11]

The VH4 sounds almost like it has a built in noise-gate sometimes. You stop playing and it stops almost before you mute. But, dynamics are not affected somehow!

I thought the VH4 did have a noise gate. Well, I've heard it called a noise trim. In fact, I adjusted mine (before I noticed the problem was a microphonic tube) and found it was already set optimally.

I guess that's what I get for buying a well designed amp.

 

[FourT6and2]

The VH4 sounds almost like it has a built in noise-gate sometimes. You stop playing and it stops almost before you mute. But, dynamics are not affected somehow!

I thought the VH4 did have a noise gate. Well, I've heard it called a noise trim. In fact, I adjusted mine (before I noticed the problem was a microphonic tube) and found it was already set optimally.

I guess that's what I get for buying a well designed amp.

You're thinking of the "hum trimmer" pot inside the amp? That has nothing to do with what a "noise gate" does.

 

[insignificant11]

The VH4 sounds almost like it has a built in noise-gate sometimes. You stop playing and it stops almost before you mute. But, dynamics are not affected somehow!

I thought the VH4 did have a noise gate. Well, I've heard it called a noise trim. In fact, I adjusted mine (before I noticed the problem was a microphonic tube) and found it was already set optimally.

I guess that's what I get for buying a well designed amp.

You're thinking of the "hum trimmer" pot inside the amp? That has nothing to do with what a "noise gate" does.

I knew that... Ok, no I didn't, but that's beside the point.

How does a hum trim work? I know a noise gate works by setting a threshold that only allows sound through if it's above a set decibel. Google and Wikipedia don't return any helpful results about hum trims.

 

[Ventura]

It just filters excessive voltage clipping/activity noise within the circuitry. Nothing outstanding. But nice to have.

V.

 

[insignificant11]

It just filters excessive voltage clipping/activity noise within the circuitry. Nothing outstanding. But nice to have.

V.

So THAT's what I get for buying a well designed amp. Definitely nice to have. Before I hooked up any of my rack gear it was very quiet. As I built my rig I found I needed a noise gate. But that's getting off topic. Anyway, thanks guys!