So is the M2 / E2 a stand alone preamp?

[dinoflint]

Can you chain E2s together?

 

[Klark]

Obviously you can use an E2 with an M4, but will the E2's loop function switcher thingy switch your M4 properly?

Or was the loop switcher function thingy built strictly for effects loops on amps?

 

[aeroic]

Obviously you can use an E2 with an M4, but will the E2's loop function switcher thingy switch your M4 properly?

Or was the loop switcher function thingy built strictly for effects loops on amps?

MIDI will switch everything.

The signal path would be

Guitar -> E2 input -> E2 preamp insert send-> m4 input -> m4 output -> E2 preamp insert return -> E2 output -> power amp

So what would happen, is if you want to use your M4, the E2's modules would be bypassed, and your signal would flow to the M4. Your midi controller would need to send the correct program change to the E2 to do that...and the M4 for the channel you want. I'm assuming there will be 5 MIDI PC's you'd need to set for the E2

PC1 - Module 1 ChA - insert disabled
PC2 - Module 1 ChB - insert disabled
PC3 - Module 2 ChA - insert disabled
PC4 - Module 2 ChB - insert disabled
PC5 - E2 Bypass - Insert enabled

If you are using an amp the flow would be:

Guitar -> E2 input -> E2 preamp insert send -> Amp's guitar input -> Amps's serial efx loop send -> E2 preamp insert return -> E2 output -> Amps' serial efx loop return.

Eric

 

[Klark]

That's cool, and how I figured it was going to work. Problem is I need 8 modules, which means two M4s, and an external switcher.

When's the E4 coming out?

 

[swimrunner]

two e2's would technically work, lol

 

[richedie]

I decided I am going E2 and rack effects with my Mod 50!

 

[Bucksears]

How would I be able to use it with an M4?
I have a slot free in my rack and 2 extra modules would be cool

sure! you can use it with anything..

No - I wondered because the M4 doesn't have an FX loop, although by the fact that it's just a preamp you could insert the E2 after the M4
Is that correct?

From what I understand it'd be like this: the e2 has a switcher in which you can put your m4 in, so it would allow you to use the e2 going to a poweramp, or use the m4 going into a poweramp. I'm guessing you would plug your guitar into the e2 and let that take care of the switching.

The reason they said it can work with any head with an effects loop is because heads with effects loop basically allow you to separate the preamp section and the poweramp section, so you can switch between the e2 and the amps preamp section, and either signal would go into the amps poweramp. If you wanted to use one with a head that didn't have an effects loop you would need to buy additional gear. If your amp has an effects loop, or you are using it with a rack preamp, then no extra gear needed.

So, hypothetically (wink wink), if I have a head without an effects loop, what extra gear would I need to use the E2? Being able to use my existing head and have the option of two Egnater dual modules is very enticing.

 

[aeroic]

How would I be able to use it with an M4?
I have a slot free in my rack and 2 extra modules would be cool

sure! you can use it with anything..

No - I wondered because the M4 doesn't have an FX loop, although by the fact that it's just a preamp you could insert the E2 after the M4
Is that correct?

From what I understand it'd be like this: the e2 has a switcher in which you can put your m4 in, so it would allow you to use the e2 going to a poweramp, or use the m4 going into a poweramp. I'm guessing you would plug your guitar into the e2 and let that take care of the switching.

The reason they said it can work with any head with an effects loop is because heads with effects loop basically allow you to separate the preamp section and the poweramp section, so you can switch between the e2 and the amps preamp section, and either signal would go into the amps poweramp. If you wanted to use one with a head that didn't have an effects loop you would need to buy additional gear. If your amp has an effects loop, or you are using it with a rack preamp, then no extra gear needed.

So, hypothetically (wink wink), if I have a head without an effects loop, what extra gear would I need to use the E2? Being able to use my existing head and have the option of two Egnater dual modules is very enticing.

Get your head modded for a serial effects loop! You could run it into a amp like a Twin...that'd be fine...but...i'm assuming the E2 will be designed to run into a line level signal like an effects loop return.

 

[Bucksears]

Yep. I've got a Super Reverb (reissue) that I had a head cab custom built for, then had the OT swapped out for a Mercury Magnetics tweed OT for a 4ohm output. Also has a tube/SS rectifier toggle, works on the fly; no power-down required first.
Does the job nicely - I guess it could be modded further for an effects loop. I'll ask my resident amp wizard about that.

 

[aeroic]

Yep. I've got a Super Reverb (reissue) that I had a head cab custom built for, then had the OT swapped out for a Mercury Magnetics tweed OT for a 4ohm output. Also has a tube/SS rectifier toggle, works on the fly; no power-down required first.
Does the job nicely - I guess it could be modded further for an effects loop. I'll ask my resident amp wizard about that.

Any good tech should be able to put in a series effects loop for an inexpensive cost.

 

[broknstuff]

yeah I misspoke, I didn't mean extra gear, extra work would have been more accurate. You'd need to have it modded to get a series loop in there.

 

[SilverSpoons]

July for the E2, eh? The money is already waiting in the account for it!

 

[Ian1eh]

Jeff Hilligan wrote:

E2 is a stand alone pre amp. It also integrates with our MOD 50 to allow you to have 2 more modules. It will be controlled via midi and will have a 8 button footswitch.
It will also work in any series loop. Take your JCM 800 with a loop and plug it into the loop and our E2 has a built in loop switcher allowing it to work with any loop! It will street in July for $1200 with 2 modules.

Hi Jeff.....just a quick question......I understand that the switching for 2 modules would use 4 buttons, but why are there 8?

I'm thinking about using an E2 in the loop of my Naylor SD60......Vox and DLX modules, along with Naylor gain tone.

Thanks!

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

Jeff Hilligan wrote:

E2 is a stand alone pre amp. It also integrates with our MOD 50 to allow you to have 2 more modules. It will be controlled via midi and will have a 8 button footswitch.
It will also work in any series loop. Take your JCM 800 with a loop and plug it into the loop and our E2 has a built in loop switcher allowing it to work with any loop! It will street in July for $1200 with 2 modules.

Hi Jeff.....just a quick question......I understand that the switching for 2 modules would use 4 buttons, but why are there 8?

I'm thinking about using an E2 in the loop of my Naylor SD60......Vox and DLX modules, along with Naylor gain tone.

Thanks!

You need 8 if using it in conjunction with a MOD 50! We will also have a 4 button FS available for situations like yours.

 

[jlbaxe]

You need 8 if using it in conjunction with a MOD 50! We will also have a 4 button FS available for situations like yours.

How about a 26 button pedal or a module pedal to add on button sections sort of like a Bradshaw pedal but for mod switching. Start with a 8 bank pedal and have a linking system to keep adding on locking them together.

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

You need 8 if using it in conjunction with a MOD 50! We will also have a 4 button FS available for situations like yours.

How about a 26 button pedal or a module pedal to add on button sections sort of like a Bradshaw pedal but for mod switching. Start with a 8 bank pedal and have a linking system to keep adding on locking them together.

Put down the bong!

 

[jmgman69]

You need 8 if using it in conjunction with a MOD 50! We will also have a 4 button FS available for situations like yours.

How about a 26 button pedal or a module pedal to add on button sections sort of like a Bradshaw pedal but for mod switching. Start with a 8 bank pedal and have a linking system to keep adding on locking them together.

Put down the bong!

You need one button for EVERY tube in your rig that comes out to aproximately 127

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

You need 8 if using it in conjunction with a MOD 50! We will also have a 4 button FS available for situations like yours.

How about a 26 button pedal or a module pedal to add on button sections sort of like a Bradshaw pedal but for mod switching. Start with a 8 bank pedal and have a linking system to keep adding on locking them together.

Put down the bong!

You need one button for EVERY tube in your rig that comes out to aproximately 127

Ok you need some oxygen..went down a little to far Ja.

 

[jlbaxe]

lol I havent touched the bong in 10 years. I just think of weird shit. did before ever smokin not that I really smoked much in my life but I like thinking outside the box. 1 crazy idea might spark a really good idea.

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

lol I havent touched the bong in 10 years. I just think of weird shit. did before ever smokin not that I really smoked much in my life but I like thinking outside the box. 1 crazy idea might spark a really good idea.

no ill will intended just sounded to good to not make that statement!