So, like, new cabs when?

[Basstyra]

Woohoo indeed !

It's 10pm here and we are just finishing. We worked very hard, but I think it was worth it

You'll tell us what you think

 

[Rogue]

hey, if there's a problem with bugs on the update, is there a way to revert back to the previous version?

Thanks for the hard work!

 

[Basstyra]

Yes, there is. It will be quite complicated but it's feasible. You'll need your last license, you should have it in a mail somewhere.

In any case, we highly recommend, as usual, but in particular here because it's a critical update, that you do not update if you have a recording session or other planned in a few days...

 

[Rogue]

Ok, so I'm checking out the cabs on the two notes store because I'm not at home to browse the new cabs via the WOSIII. How does one tell if the cab is a Capture Masters cab or not? Are they all CM cabs?

 

[Rogue]

Yes, there is. It will be quite complicated but it's feasible. You'll need your last license, you should have it in a mail somewhere.

In any case, we highly recommend, as usual, but in particular here because it's a critical update, that you do not update if you have a recording session or other planned in a few days...

I don't have a recording session, but I have a Reload arriving tomorrow....so you know, I really want to check that thing out with the WOS. But I'm really wanting to check out the new cabs too. It's a roll of the dice.

I think I saved my license somewhere. I'll look at see.

Are we getting a new license with the update or something?

 

[Basstyra]

How does one tell if the cab is a Capture Masters cab or not?

That's a very good question... So far, you can't, it will come later.

All the new cabs are not from the Capture Masters program, no.

The following cabs are for the Caverne studio :
Fridge 9
Angl Pro30
GreenArtO
GreenArtC
Brit 60A
Tanger 30O
Tanger 30C
Dual BW15

The following cabs are for the Noise Factory studio :
GldFingrSB
BoGreen
Calif Std2

And the Fastback25 is from the Fastback studio.

Are we getting a new license with the update or something?

Yes. But if you are connected online, it's a straightforward process, only a few clics, and maybe a restart of the plug-in will be necessary.

 

[Rogue]

How does one tell if the cab is a Capture Masters cab or not?

That's a very good question... So far, you can't, it will come later.

All the new cabs are not from the Capture Masters program, no.

The following cabs are for the Caverne studio :
Fridge 9
Angl Pro30
GreenArtO
GreenArtC
Brit 60A
Tanger 30O
Tanger 30C
Dual BW15

The following cabs are for the Noise Factory studio :
GldFingrSB
BoGreen
Calif Std2

And the Fastback25 is from the Fastback studio.

Cool. It looks like all the greenback cabs I was interested in are studio cabs!

Are we getting a new license with the update or something?

Yes. But if you are connected online, it's a straightforward process, only a few clics, and maybe a restart of the plug-in will be necessary.

Seems I have always to do something strange to update. I can't remember what though. It seems like I had to download the file and run it as opposed to update from the plugin itself. Oh well.

Here's to a bug free release!!

 

[oscarraap]

You know what, that's funny because you can read all over the Internet people explaining that our IRs are bad and useless, and some place else the exact contrary.

What I think I figured out is that the mic choice and it's positioning is very intimidating for some guitarists, while switching from one IR to another is more simple and straightforward.



Well I think you are absolutely right. I mean it's great to have all these mics and positioning possibillities in the virtual world, but it is equally important to have either the experience to use them, or have access to ideas (and by all means presets) of professional engineers to have at least a good starting point.

Guys like Steven Slate have become very succesful in recognising that there is a demand for "mix readyness". So, I'm hoping that the CM project will deliver more in this department.

Me, I'm reading lots of books on the subject of micing and mixing, but I realise that it's not gonna bring me the years of experience of a top engineer. After all, guitar practise remains my priority.

cheers, Oscar

 

[nicolasrivera]

Ok, im really confused now.... i can see all the new cabs in the online store, they have a red ribbon depicting new, in the description it says its for the WOSIII plugging... I have the Torpedo CAB, do i have to wait for them to come out for my hardware? or should i buy them from the store? will they work with my TCAB?

Thanks.

 

[Basstyra]

You will have to wait they come out for the hardware. It's the next step, it will comme very soon

 

[Damageplan]

Hi there,

so i installed the new WOSIII without any problems.
Is it possible already to use the cabs on my VB-101 with it?
I'm using the beta of the VB-101 so it should be the new format?

Cheers
Matthias

 

[Basstyra]

Same answer as above

The beta version we released does not support the new files yet.

 

[Damageplan]

Ok, and how does it work when it's released?
How do I get my existing cabs from my VB-101 to WOSIII?
Btw: I can have all cabinets from my VB-101 in WOSIII, right?
Not only the one's i purchased through your shop, right?

 

[nicolasrivera]

You will have to wait they come out for the hardware. It's the next step, it will comme very soon

Thank you!

 

[Rogue]

So, I bought two. BoGreen and GldFingr. I recorded a quick clip pre upgrade and saved a scene. I used my standard TN settings which is three Green Tri cabs. I upgraded and loaded that scene. I had to reset somethings like redirect to the cab and mics. The output was way louder than the pre-upgrade. I'm not sure why.

I changed the output level to keep all the settings the same and rendered that out. The post upgrade Green Tri seemed not quite as bright, but fuller sounding. I think the brightness can be dialed back in with some mic adjustments.

So, I did the same thing with BoGreen and GldFingr...meaning I just took the same TN instance and redirected to that the new cabs, keeping everything else the same. I had to substitute a mic, because they didn't have the ribbon160 (or at least one of the didn't). I used the s7 instead. Anyways....

BoGreen vs Green Tri...I like this a lot. More present, more aggressive, more upper mids, and more bottom end than the Green Tri. It also has a nice chime on top.

GldFingr vs Green Tri....perhaps slightly darker than the Green Tri, but smoother and somehow still more present than the Green Tri. Mids galore. Smooth and big sounding. Nice organic thing happening.

I didn't change any of the settings or moved the mic or anything, and immediately was pleased by what was there compared to my previous settings with the Green Tri. BoGreen will probably be used for more aggressive tunes while the GldFinger used for easy tunes.

Both winners in my book.

To the TN guys....I have a question. The GldFingr cab is a scumback and G12H30. Are they pre "mixed" and we're getting both cabs? If so, are they always mixed together? Are certain mics for certain speakers? In the description it says "mic placed before Scumback" and I'm not sure what that means. Any info would be cool.

Thanks guys. I think I can play with these two cabs and new mics for days tweaking out sounds. I'm curious about what both together would sound like. Both on their own sound good. Good job!

Also a heads up, there is funkiness in the mics when changing them or changing TN instances. When I get some more time and get my head wrapped around what it's doing, I'll submit a ticket.

 

[tonicstudio]

So, I bought two. BoGreen and GldFingr. I recorded a quick clip pre upgrade and saved a scene. I used my standard TN settings which is three Green Tri cabs. I upgraded and loaded that scene. I had to reset somethings like redirect to the cab and mics. The output was way louder than the pre-upgrade. I'm not sure why.

I changed the output level to keep all the settings the same and rendered that out. The post upgrade Green Tri seemed not quite as bright, but fuller sounding. I think the brightness can be dialed back in with some mic adjustments.

So, I did the same thing with BoGreen and GldFingr...meaning I just took the same TN instance and redirected to that the new cabs, keeping everything else the same. I had to substitute a mic, because they didn't have the ribbon160 (or at least one of the didn't). I used the s7 instead. Anyways....

BoGreen vs Green Tri...I like this a lot. More present, more aggressive, more upper mids, and more bottom end than the Green Tri. It also has a nice chime on top.

GldFingr vs Green Tri....perhaps slightly darker than the Green Tri, but smoother and somehow still more present than the Green Tri. Mids galore. Smooth and big sounding. Nice organic thing happening.

I didn't change any of the settings or moved the mic or anything, and immediately was pleased by what was there compared to my previous settings with the Green Tri. BoGreen will probably be used for more aggressive tunes while the GldFinger used for easy tunes.

Both winners in my book.

To the TN guys....I have a question. The GldFingr cab is a scumback and G12H30. Are they pre "mixed" and we're getting both cabs? If so, are they always mixed together? Are certain mics for certain speakers? In the description it says "mic placed before Scumback" and I'm not sure what that means. Any info would be cool.

Thanks guys. I think I can play with these two cabs and new mics for days tweaking out sounds. I'm curious about what both together would sound like. Both on their own sound good. Good job!

Also a heads up, there is funkiness in the mics when changing them or changing TN instances. When I get some more time and get my head wrapped around what it's doing, I'll submit a ticket.

Hi!

I'm glad that you are liking these two cabs... because I have captured these (and the Mesa Boogie 2x12 too).
These Bogner cabs are really like your description, Goldfinger cab is smooth and full sounding, the 4x12 Greenback is more in your face, more chime...


The speaker miked close on the goldfinger cab is the scumback, only the scumback m75.
No speaker mix but when you move the mic, the G12h30 comes naturally in the final sound.
So at close miking the Scumback is the only speaker, I will capture the G12H side soon and a lot of other cabs (Friedman 4x12, Bogner Oversized, Two Rock signature 2x12, Bogner Ubercab frontloaded, CAA 2x12, Marshall vintage,...)

 

[tonicstudio]

I had to substitute a mic, because they didn't have the ribbon160 (or at least one of the didn't). I used the s7 instead. Anyways....

You can use the R121 mic, it's a ribbon mic like the 160.
The Shure SM7 (S7) is a great mic too for more bite, and the Mojave 201 (cond201) is a nice mic too I think.

Have fun!!

 

[sysexguy]

That's awesome, so what are the 8 mics you used?

When I did PrimeA and PrimeB, I actually made the trapezoid a mirror image so that full distance and center was off to the respective sides of the cabinet. When using these in parallel, either in WOSIII or VB-101, one really gets the full panarama.

At some point, an X pattern 4x12 done in the same fashion would be sweet.

Now that the mic choices are open, this will really get fun....even weird stuff like phone receivers and toys could be used...

Andy

 

[tonicstudio]

That's awesome, so what are the 8 mics you used?

Hi!
Here is the mic/preamp list


1) Shure SM57/Neve 1073
2) Shure SM7b/Neve 1073
3) Beyer Dynamic M88/API 512C
4) Sennheiser MD421/API 512C
5) Electro Voice RE20/API 512C
6) Royer R-121/API 512c
7) Neumann U87/Neve 8801
8) Mojave MA-201/Universal Audio LA610 MKII


And yes it's cool for some fun stuff like toys or other weird mics

 

[pacocito]

I bought the GldFngr cab and I love it and I'm buying a pack cabs today because that one is awesome!