Speaker Suggestions

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Here's my Story. I Have a Near Mint Marshall 1960BHW That is loaded with the Heritage G12H30's. i'm finding that i'm not a huge fan of those speakers, I'm looking for suggestions as to what i could swap the G12's for.

I play Hardcore Like Agnostic front, Terror, Lionheart.
 
What about the H30's don't you like? Might help with the suggestions.
 
Emg77 said:
What about the H30's don't you like? Might help with the suggestions.
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To my ear, which isn't great mind you, They sound kinda hollow but they also have a LOT of fizz.
 
Detroit1973 said:
To my ear, which isn't great mind you, They sound kinda hollow but they also have a LOT of fizz.
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That’s just how those H magnet speakers like the H30 are. Hollow mids, but more highs & lows. I was never of a fan of H magnet Celestion’s either. I’d recommend going in the other direction with some of their M magnet speakers for better quality midrange. My preference is the 20 watt Greenbacks. No nasal honk like the 25 watt versions have
 
Detroit1973 said:
To my ear, which isn't great mind you, They sound kinda hollow but they also have a LOT of fizz.
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Are you playing at low volume? As the Braintheory stated the M's will certainly bring out the mids.
 
G12H30's do sound exactly like you're describing, OP. The fizz was the first thing I noticed about them as well. They have a great low end, and without the fizz I think they'd probably be one of the better sounding speakers you could get for 2x12 cabs or smaller, but the fizz pretty much kills my opinion of the speaker in general.

Personally, for all things high gain, I've always had the best luck with the classic pairing of V30's and Greenbacks. V30's will give you a tight low end and great upper mids while minimizing the fizz. Greenbacks can have more papery fizz going on in the top but the mids are huge and rich, and you could probably low pass the highs away pretty easily. My favorite flavor of Greenback is the Heritage Greenback though, now known as the EVH signature speakers, which sound like regular Greenbacks but with the fizzy highs smoothed out and mostly filtered away.
 
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TheGreatGreen said:
G12H30's do sound exactly like you're describing, OP. The fizz was the first thing I noticed about them as well. They have a great low end, and without the fizz they'd probably be one of the better sounding speaker you could get for 2x12 cabs or smaller, but the fizz pretty much kills my opinion of the speaker in general.

Personally, for all things high gain, I've always had the best luck with the classic pairing of V30's and Greenbacks. V30's will give you a tight low end and great upper mids while minimizing the fizz. Greenbacks can have more papery fizz going on in the top but the mids are huge and rich, and you could probably low pass the highs away pretty easily. My favorite flavor of Greenback is the Heritage Greenback though, now known as the EVH signature speakers, which sound like regular Greenbacks but with the fizzy highs smoothed out and mostly filtered away.
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Somone once told me the people who made my cab are the same as the people who the EVH Cabs? i can't confirm that of course.
 
Detroit1973 said:
Somone once told me the people who made my cab are the same as the people who the EVH Cabs? i can't confirm that of course.
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Could be. Your cab and the EVH 4x12 cabs certainly look very close with the way the front edges are shaped and the way the baffle board is very slightly angled upwards.

I'll tell you that I have two EVH 4x12 cabs and I think they're fantastic.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Could be. Your cab and the EVH 4x12 cabs certainly look very close with the way the front edges are shaped and the way the baffle board is very slightly angled upwards.

I'll tell you that I have two EVH 4x12 cabs and I think they're fantastic.
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what i really want to add to my collection is the EVH 100watt EL34S & Cab & maybe another Jackson T-1000.
 
Detroit1973 said:
what i really want to add to my collection is the EVH 100watt EL34S & Cab & maybe another Jackson T-1000.
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Oh cool, I've got one of those amps, they're awesome! I go back and fourth between it and the 100w 6L6 Stealth. The 100w EL34 has the better clean channel and thicker mids in the gain channels, but the 100w Stealth's gain channels have slightly more lows and slightly crispier highs so I think it sounds a *tiny* bit more modern while the 100w EL34 sounds thicker. Don't kid yourself though, the 100w EL34 can shred as hard as anything and can definitely be dialed to have more slice and cut than anybody needs lol. But honestly it's like 1% difference and you'll almost never actually drive the poweramps of those beasts hard enough to distort, so any differences could be mostly negated with something like a parametric EQ in the loop.

Great amps to shoot for. If you like modern high gain, it's tough to do much better.
 
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TheGreatGreen said:
Oh cool, I've got one of those amps, they're awesome! I go back and fourth between it and the 100w 6L6 Stealth. The 100w EL34 has the better clean channel and thicker mids in the gain channels, but the 100w Stealth's gain channels have slightly more lows and slightly more crispy highs so I think it sounds a *tiny* bit more modern while the 100w EL34 sounds thicker. Don't kid yourself though, the 100w EL34 can shred as hard as anything and can definitely be dialed to have more slice and cut than anybody needs lol. But honestly it's like 1% difference and you'll almost never actually drive the poweramps of those beasts hard enough to distort, so any differences could be mostly negated with something like a parametric EQ in the loop.

Great amps to shoot for. If you like modern high gain, it's tough to do much better.
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My Favorite Tones always seem to be Modded Marshalls, 5150's or 2 Channel Dual Recs......so i figured having a 5150III EL34S would be perfect for what i do. i only tune to D standard sometimes Drop C But no lower.
 
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