Talk to me about the Les Paul Moderns and Supremes.

japetus said:
Do you have any old brit g12-75 cabs
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Not sure about raceu but I do, just picked up an 84 B and 86 A cab.

So the last few hours I've been rabbit holing comparing these Moderns to Customs, regular + 57RI + 68 RI. Seems like most of the difference is in the PUPs. Maybe I need to take a trip to play all this shit. :ROFLMAO:
 
GJgo said:
@Jack Luminous I havne't seen those before- the neck joint looks amazing!
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Yeah it is ! I have two, one stop tail with rosewood board, akin to a standard LP, and one just like a custom with ebony board and floyd. Both amazing sounding fiddles and very light and comfy. I don't touch my other guitars since I bought them.
 
Doing some more reading, I'm seeeing that the Custom RIs come with a nylon nut. Almost $7K for a guitar and a nylon nut!?! WTF is that?!?!

Anyway, seems like what I'm hearing is that the Moderns really do sound more.. modern, to the extent that if I was to compare one of those to a good Eclipse there might not be a significant tonal difference. That if I want that classic LP sound I should be looking more at a Custom or Standard. Sound right?

...Or, the difference with the chambering is subtle but there, if I had a Modern / Supreme and put some OG PUPs in it it'd get me there without a 10lb axe on my shoulder? Whatever I get will be gigged.
 
Chambered guitar can sounds good, but they don't work for heavier music as good as traditional full body or 9-hole relief. And they are prone to feedback much more.
Did you checked 'standard' Custom ? The are heavier than reissues but 498T pickups and thin neck profile make them perfect for rock/metal music and black custom looks just fantastic.
Cobra burst is pure perfection.
 

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The newer non-reissue Customs have 9-hole relief and to me sound and feel great. I thought the frets were kinda small but that's a complaint I've had about most recent Gibsons.
 
bubucci said:
Chambered guitar can sounds good, but they don't work for heavier music as good as traditional full body or 9-hole relief. And they are prone to feedback much more.
Did you checked 'standard' Custom ? The are heavier than reissues but 498T pickups and thin neck profile make them perfect for rock/metal music and black custom looks just fantastic.
Cobra burst is pure perfection.
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Yeah I have been looking at the standard Customs. From what I can tell I think you're right, it'd be more up my alley than a RI custom.
 
Hold up- with these comments I just realized the new Customs are also weight releived. (and still 10 lbs LOL) So this is not the tone devil?
 
I have been checking these out recently.
I thought the small (low) frets would be my hang up but,if these have chambered body that’s gonna be a problem for me. Chambered les Paul’s always sound hollow to me. Like it kills what a les Paul in known for.
 

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GJgo said:
Hold up- with these comments I just realized the new Customs are also weight releived. (and still 10 lbs LOL) So this is not the tone devil?
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I’ve got a 2022 custom shop custom and it punches hard. It may be weight relieved but no way is it chambered.
 
tpruitt said:
I have been checking these out recently.
I thought the small (low) frets would be my hang up but,if these have chambered body that’s gonna be a problem for me. Chambered les Paul’s always sound hollow to me. Like it kills what a les Paul in known for.
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Yeah unfortunatley the Supremes are modern chambered. Which sucks because the one I was looking at was a stunner.
 
romanianreaper said:
Is yours a 50s neck?
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I’m not even sure, I know it’s a 96 standard by the serial number, I found it on Craigslist in one of those too good to be true deals so I just kind of grabbed it without playing it much. My hand cramps, pops, there’s string noise I’ve not experienced in any other guitar, it just feels slow and clunky
 
GJgo said:
Hold up- with these comments I just realized the new Customs are also weight releived. (and still 10 lbs LOL) So this is not the tone devil?
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They have 9-hole relief. The ones that I've had were very heavy. The historics (which don't any any relief) tend to be much lighter. But you pay a lot for it.
 
I would just hunt down a bitchin standard. I played a standard the other day from Craigslist. It was a 91 and the guitar killed. The imbecile selling it apparently thought he had a piece of history because his price was nothing short of preposterous, so much so, that I thought it was a typo. Nope, this buffoon was dead serious. On my way out I said, “sir!! You have egregiously offended me! This is an outrage of the highest order!! (I was now in the middle of a powerful temper tantrum) I then challenged him to a duel (to the death of course) with dull butter knives.
 
I am currently leaning towards a normal Custom. A black one, because apparently the white ones are made on the USA production line because they have to use their paint booths for the white... WTF?

I also went down the Axcess rabbit hole- SUPER cool specs, however I found out they are thinner (like an ESP?) and around 8 lbs., with less of that heavy-ass Custom dripping tone. Dammit. Seems like every time they try to do something different & more modern, it includes sucking tone!!
 
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