Ted Nugent

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I saw Ted on Sat in MN. They brought their A game it was so refreshing to hear Derek sing and play rhythm. It was a great show and Ted kept the talking to a minimum. Go see him on this tour very tight band. Well worth seeing. He had 2 5150 both had different Chanel lights lit and there were cords into the inputs. HE had either a 2x12 or a combo miked in between the 5150's . It had no lights knobs or markings that were visible.


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TroubledWine":j1yl2x8s said:
[It's my opinion Ted is using the 2x12 combo amp in the center. Highlighted by arrows. The half stacks on either side are not mic'd or turned on. Also when he went to force a feedback effect he shoved the Byrdland into that combo amp in the center to get the feedback.
Yeah, and you got an asshole too.

I was there buddy. I got tons more experience in the live and tone department then you friend. I'm more than just a RT connoisseur of golden tone and playing experience.

Teds gets feedback from the PVs and the combo is there to please you, n00b!

Now . . .
 
As an owner of a Byrdland, I give Ted credit for playing that guitar. 23 1/2" scale neck. Very small, but damn near impossible to get anything over the 15th fret. When you hear those high notes on the old records, he's working to get them. Then there's the feedback issue with a full hollowbody.

Definitely a strange feeling guitar when you're used to strats or LP's. Not a rock guitar, but Ted makes it work. His black one sounds best to me live FWIW.
 
King Crimson":2h2hckb4 said:
TroubledWine":2h2hckb4 said:
[It's my opinion Ted is using the 2x12 combo amp in the center. Highlighted by arrows. The half stacks on either side are not mic'd or turned on. Also when he went to force a feedback effect he shoved the Byrdland into that combo amp in the center to get the feedback.
Yeah, and you got an asshole too.

I was there buddy. I got tons more experience in the live and tone department then you friend. I'm more than just a RT connoisseur of golden tone and playing experience.

Teds gets feedback from the PVs and the combo is there to please you, n00b!

Now . . .
LOL. Real nice guy. Boy, you sure showed me how smart you are.
 
boost":3oha5uvu said:
As an owner of a Byrdland, I give Ted credit for playing that guitar. 23 1/2" scale neck. Very small, but damn near impossible to get anything over the 15th fret. When you hear those high notes on the old records, he's working to get them. Then there's the feedback issue with a full hollowbody.

Definitely a strange feeling guitar when you're used to strats or LP's. Not a rock guitar, but Ted makes it work. His black one sounds best to me live FWIW.

I have heard there is a real art to playing one of those for Rock music and its one that Teddy has mastered for sure. I have seen and heard a few others that attempt it and can get it work, but not to the level live Ted has done with songs like Great White Buffalo, Hibernation and Stranglehold with the neck pup.

 
King Crimson":eee8rwv4 said:
TroubledWine":eee8rwv4 said:
[It's my opinion Ted is using the 2x12 combo amp in the center. Highlighted by arrows. The half stacks on either side are not mic'd or turned on. Also when he went to force a feedback effect he shoved the Byrdland into that combo amp in the center to get the feedback.
Yeah, and you got an asshole too.

I was there buddy. I got tons more experience in the live and tone department then you friend. I'm more than just a RT connoisseur of golden tone and playing experience.

Teds gets feedback from the PVs and the combo is there to please you, n00b!

Now . . .


Here we! A pwn fight. It's on boys.
 
verderacer":2ggbn4mu said:
boost":2ggbn4mu said:
As an owner of a Byrdland, I give Ted credit for playing that guitar. 23 1/2" scale neck. Very small, but damn near impossible to get anything over the 15th fret. When you hear those high notes on the old records, he's working to get them. Then there's the feedback issue with a full hollowbody.

Definitely a strange feeling guitar when you're used to strats or LP's. Not a rock guitar, but Ted makes it work. His black one sounds best to me live FWIW.

I have heard there is a real art to playing one of those for Rock music and its one that Teddy has mastered for sure. I have seen and heard a few others that attempt it and can get it work, but not to the level live Ted has done with songs like Great White Buffalo, Hibernation and Stranglehold with the neck pup.


It's an art for sure. Take a look at where the strap is. That hinders the access even more. Forget about putting Schaller straplocks on it.

I still think the Byrdland is the coolest looking hollowbody ever made. I always liked the floretine cutaway. The guitar is thin and the small neck takes some getting used to, but once you do it's a really nice guitar to play as long as you don't really need much above the 12-15 fret. Unfortunately most solos get up there and some point making the guitar limited for alot of classic rock songs.

Mine's a '64 and it is beat pretty good. This guitar was used for what it was built for - to be played. I'll never part with it.

One more thing that makes the Byrdland unusual - The PAF's have polepieces that are closer together than normal to compensate for the smaller width neck. If you try to put standard humbuckers in there, the poles won't line up. I've tried and no humbuckers line up with the fretboard.

An odd duck (or bird if you will) for sure.
 
Time to whip this out again

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TroubledWine":285jn0ja said:
King Crimson":285jn0ja said:
Seen Ted twice in recent years and he's most definitely using them. I was less than 10' from front stage and I'm enough of a guitar amp connoisseur to know and hear where his sound was coming from. And there was no combo on stage, the sound was coming from the PVs.
It's my opinion Ted is using the 2x12 combo amp in the center. Highlighted by arrows. The half stacks on either side are not mic'd or turned on. Also when he went to force a feedback effect he shoved the Byrdland into that combo amp in the center to get the feedback.
'Not on'...I think you win this argument. :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:
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Randy Van Sykes":tvo9qlbj said:
TroubledWine":tvo9qlbj said:
King Crimson":tvo9qlbj said:
Seen Ted twice in recent years and he's most definitely using them. I was less than 10' from front stage and I'm enough of a guitar amp connoisseur to know and hear where his sound was coming from. And there was no combo on stage, the sound was coming from the PVs.
It's my opinion Ted is using the 2x12 combo amp in the center. Highlighted by arrows. The half stacks on either side are not mic'd or turned on. Also when he went to force a feedback effect he shoved the Byrdland into that combo amp in the center to get the feedback.
'Not on'...I think you win this argument. :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:
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Alright, I'm a big boy. I'll stand corrected.

I know the guy who owns the production company for the Rock and Roll Express tour and was out on the road with Ted the last 5 weeks. So I just asked him.

I'm half wrong.

The 6505's are not running.

The 4x12 cabs are.

They're hooked up to an entire rack of 5150's offstage which we can't see.

I'll eat my crow
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Well, Ted's tone isn't exclusive to any one amp anyway. the guy is old school. He can play thru anything and get it across. I've seen him on YT playing thru PRS amps.

In the old days Ted used 3 Fender Twins on those huge Fender cabs...cranked to bird-killing volumes.
 
cupcaketwins":2o6dje0m said:
Well, Ted's tone isn't exclusive to any one amp anyway. the guy is old school. He can play thru anything and get it across. I've seen him on YT playing thru PRS amps.

In the old days Ted used 3 Fender Twins on those huge Fender cabs...cranked to bird-killing volumes.
Tru dat, I remember those days :yes:
 
cupcaketwins":394o2osp said:
In the old days Ted used 3 Fender Twins on those huge Fender cabs...cranked to bird-killing volumes.
You mean like here. Although he's got 4 here, but I'll be careful with my opinions on rigs. Learned my lesson being a noob and all. ;)

 
I had completely forgotten about those fenders. He used to pack the stage full of them back in the day... ;)
 
It may be safe to say Ted was more about being a rockstar and ice cream truck age poon than being a tone freak.

And he did a gret job.
 
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