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VonBonfire
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I have mixed feelings about it. It doesn't seem as black and white to me as it does to you.
The Jews will never have peace in their lives if they keep blowing shit up ...
Laputan Machine
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Both sides are nuts. There's no solution.
Thumbpicker
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What would you have them do. Cower and be picked off continually by their enemies? They may not be God's chosen people these days but they do still have a special place in God's plan if you read what happens in Revelation in the end. God still has a plan for the Jews to come to him.
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VonBonfire
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This is why I have mixed feelings.^
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VonBonfire
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They were chased out of the land and are no longer a covenant nation. I guess you never read Deuteronomy at cowboy church.wrong.
TheBiggestJerk
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They’re not a pride of lions either and both of em need to go away!!!
Laputan Machine
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Jews had Kingdom of Judah, that's where "Israel" (in modern sense since historical sense it wasn't even Jewish) is. They have ethnically cleansed (every bit as bad as the Nazis, Khmer Rouge, Soviets, etc) the rest in the recent past.
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VonBonfire
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Considering that most of the movers and shakers behind the bolsheviks were jewish I'd say they ethnically cleansed their own people more than any other.
Floyd Eye
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I don't care if they're "God"s chosen people. The way the world laps up Iran's ball juice and makes excuses for their little proxy armies who cowardly lob rockets and shit from schools and hospitals and then attack Israel when they defend themselves makes me sick. Would you expect all your peers to watch you get punched in the face and your wife get raped and then when you retaliate they all urge you to use constraint? Fuck Iran. They got it coming and it's looking like they're gonna get it.
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VonBonfire
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I do somewhat agree. But by the same token if by grift I made your houses and lands mine you might be upset with me because I stole what belonged to you. You would be more upset when I moved a ton of family members in so that your attempts to deal with me were met with increased resistance. Imagine then that a neighbor across town bolsters my defenses sending me arms so you are further outgunned. But somehow I am in the right.
Floyd Eye
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Every nation on this planet was conquered at one point or another. So far Israel has managed to keep it. And the Palestinians have never been interested in a 2 state solution. They have rejected every proposal. They clearly won't be satisfied with anything less than the annihilation of the Jews. You notice that all the arab countries who aren't state sponsored terrorist states aren't lobbing rockets at Israel or interfering with what's going on right ? They are also not allowing Palestinians to settle in their countries. Wonder why ?
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VonBonfire
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So you're also ok if the arabs shove them into the med and take the land for themselves?
I don't think every arab feels this way. It's like saying every American supports the Ukrainian cause. A half truth, at best.
They don't want the shit blown out of them, lol.
My post wasn't really a defense of arabs. Just showing how these things spiral out of control and Israel was a newcomer who did make some land grabs, providing additional trigger points for palestinians. I generally agree with all your sentiments and this is not any different for the most part.
Anyone saying the jews need to give it up is a moron. Anyone saying they need to wipe out the palestinians is also a moron. Just my two cents. Evening Floyd!
Floyd Eye
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If the arabs could, they would. You don't see Israel trying to wipe out their shithole countries. Or attacking civilians. And I'm not referring to collateral damage. Only one side even makes a base attempt to limit them and it sure as hell isn't the arabs.
Over 3/4 of palestinians in polls conducted after Oct. 7 supported it.
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VonBonfire
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Polls don't mean jack though and even if that was accurate you still have 25% of them who want nothing to do with it.
I do see plenty of "settlers" constantly encroaching on Arab owned lands, in violation of the law. They are very vocal about God having "gave" them the land.
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shar-vell Dan
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So yer saying a Jew holy war is better than a muslim holy war ?
Religeous wars how does that work ?
As far as God he made is all not just jews.
The jews are like the dorky kid at school getting picked on and its not going to end til they Nuke somebody.
China, North Korea & Russia will wanna retaliate and then we got WW III and life as we know it ends.
Because the US hasn't been able to control Israel mine / your / the worlds peace and existence is dependant on the Jews making good choices
based on Religeon, what could possibly go wrong ?
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Floyd Eye
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You have absolutely zero business in a conversation about foreign policy or international military affairs. That’s the most retarded assessment of current affairs I’ve ever heard.
acceptance
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That sounds like a question that depends on one's theological outlook. But I'm pretty sure the founding of Israel was ultimately a secular movement, even if it had been at times understood or sold in religious terms. Judaism, like any major religion, is varied. I will say that I've read of some stuff in the Talmud that is so appalling. And likewise seen those views reflected in some Jewish sects.
acceptance
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I think some of you guys would do well to learn more about the history of Israel, Israeli tactics and brutality. It's like your version of history always only starts at the time Israel is attacked and ignores everything else.