Torpedo Reload II - NEW

Not sure what "Approved Load Response " is or how it can work but they say they have it figured out. Can it internally adjust based on greenbacks, V30's etc?

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My understanding it is based on a 412 cab loaded with Celestion’s… allegedly

Hoping they’ll send me one for demo as I’ve been a long time Studio/TN user.
 
So this is a re-amper like the Boss or Fryette?

I didn't see much reason to upgrade, but if it's cheaper than either of those two it could be cool.
 
Chronic Narnia said:
I want to know more about the loadbox impedance curve. Is there more than one? Are they selectable?
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Sounds like they're suggesting the IC this time round is actually legit. Previously it was a basic U-shape like Boss and UA have implemented. If so it's a good move, both for sonic and safety reasons.

And I don't want to be a negative Nelly but for whatever reason the Celestion IRs are amongst the worst I've heard. It's either their capture method or the ears running the project (or both), but there's something not right there. Almost every third-party greenback I've heard sounds more faithful to a properly miked cab than Celestion have been able to achieve.
 
ners said:
So this is a re-amper like the Boss or Fryette?

I didn't see much reason to upgrade, but if it's cheaper than either of those two it could be cool.
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No fx, no boost/eq, no amp channel switching, no MIDI
 
I’ll stick with my Fryette. Whoever is the first to make a loadbox with multiple curves via a hardware switch (not simulated) will be my next purchase. Fractal has one but it’s just okay. I could live with a V30 and Greenback only.
 
Chronic Narnia said:
I’ll stick with my Fryette. Whoever is the first to make a loadbox with multiple curves via a hardware switch (not simulated) will be my next purchase. Fractal has one but it’s just okay. I could live with a V30 and Greenback only.
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Food for thought - the impedance curve of a Celestion-loaded cabinet doesn't vary in a meaningful way speaker to speaker. The frequency response of the speaker itself is where all the action is, assuming the load is a robust reactive design.

A Mesa OS and typical Marshall box have differing responses (as the Fractal is designed to emulate), but even then it doesn't seem to translate to a big deal in the real world.

Honestly if anyone is struggling to achieve good direct tone with an Aiken-based box like the Suhr then the issue is not the load.
 
tallcoolone said:
I don’t see what this does that the other boxes don’t?
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Yeah t's not reinventing any wheels - just doing what their competition does at a lower price point. Hard to get excited bout these race to the bottom releases (in terms of cost), but it is what it is.

I don't know the country of manufacture for sure, but I suspect Two Notes, Boss, UA etc. are all Asian-made. I hope Suhr and Fryette can keep up with this, because we know how that story goes otherwise.
 
ZEN Amps said:
Yeah t's not reinventing any wheels - just doing what their competition does at a lower price point. Hard to get excited bout these race to the bottom releases (in terms of cost), but it is what it is.

I don't know the country of manufacture for sure, but I suspect Two Notes, Boss, UA etc. are all Asian-made. I hope Suhr and Fryette can keep up with this, because we know how that story goes otherwise.
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I really doubt it. IMO, at this point, any of these new boxes need to have fx, at least one loop, amp channel switching, non-proprietary IRs, MIDI, boost, eq and switchable impedance. Also IMO the "real tube" component is more a hinderance than a benefit.
 
Chronic Narnia said:
I’ll stick with my Fryette. Whoever is the first to make a loadbox with multiple curves via a hardware switch (not simulated) will be my next purchase. Fractal has one but it’s just okay. I could live with a V30 and Greenback only.
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I feel like this has to be the most requested feature and still nobody is doing it. If they are really doing it right, then it isn't just a 4x12, it would be a 4x12 with 3 or 4 diff speaker types and then a 2x12 open back with 2-3 choices.
 
Chronic Narnia said:
I’ll stick with my Fryette. Whoever is the first to make a loadbox with multiple curves via a hardware switch (not simulated) will be my next purchase. Fractal has one but it’s just okay. I could live with a V30 and Greenback only.
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The st rock react ir II has 2 separate curves with a hardware button on the face. Both good, ones is brighter and the other is warmer. They bith work in reactive mode.
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
Not sure what "Approved Load Response " is or how it can work but they say they have it figured out. Can it internally adjust based on greenbacks, V30's etc?

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Hey @Kapo_Polenton,

Thanks for the question - reposting what I just replied to in our manufacturer forum below for everyone on this thread.

Ross from Two notes here guys, great to meet you all.

The impedance curve is not matched to a specific speaker but rather an average of the key drivers in Celestion's line; this was subsequently validated by Celestion in order that we can use the moniker: a "Celestion Approved Load Response". The root of this change was centred around the feedback we have received from user's in relation to our legacy line of loadboxes and marks a ground-up rework of our reactive load technology.

If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to let me know - I am always happy to help!
 
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