Treble on '0' ?

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I can't remember the thread but a few weeks ago some of us were talking about how we like to run our amps with the Treble on '0'.

Does anybody else do this?

I do it with my Splawn and have started doing it with my Rectoverb.

It doesn't work with all amps and evidently not even with all Splawns or Rectos. Not sure what the reasons are. Something to do with the way the tone stack is designed.

On my amp if I roll the treble all the way down the amp gets real '3D like' without necessarily no treble. In other words, it doesn't sound like treble has been removed - but only when sitting at '0' for me. Push it past noon and yeah - there is plenty of treble. I'm strictly talking about Treble on '0'.

Can anyone explain this?
 
I ran my QR treble @ 0, I run my MW Dual Recto treble @ 0, I run the treble just a touch above ) on the VH140c, and I run the MCII @ 0 most the time as well.

Don't know what the technical reason is, but it works for me.
 
A few years back I read about people running there Quick Rods with the treble on 0 and sure enough it was a pretty cool tone but I preferred it with the treble bumped up. The treble on 0 didn't have the same effect on my Super Sport , sounded really muddy
 
i will layer a lot of times with one amp with the bass and treble cranked and the mids scooped, then another with the treble and bass at 0 and the mids on 10.
 
On my tremoverb and deliverance 60 treble at 0 and mids over 60% is great.... on the triple rec and d120 not so much
 
I tried this a couple times and found out it was heavily cab dependent. With a Deliverance 60/V30 speaker match it sounded great, with my other cabs (scumback) not so much
 
The Bogner xtc used an audio taper treble vs linear in most amps. So even setting it at 12:00-1:00, it's like setting between 8:00-9:00 on another amp
 
I always dial my high end with the presence first....start with treble on 0. Most of the time I end up with the treble at 2 or so, but one of the SLOs I've owned stayed at 0. But I've never had the presence AND treble at 0. I do know a guy who ran his Marshalls with the mids maxed and treble at 0 for years. He ran a 68 50w and had enough high end to cut your head off, even with the treble off.
 
these were/are the settings that you know who dialed in on my nitro.

just saying. :)

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JMP2203":1dmfa1ym said:
its works until you play with a drummer
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This. It sounds great in a room by yourself, but welcome to Gettin Buriedsville.
 
I saw a interview about Eric Johnson and his guitar tones and he runs his treble at zero.
 
I have a jcm800 clone when I crank it I put the treble at zero, I bring a bit of the highs back with presence killer sound
 
I do it with the Uberschall. I put all tone controls on 0 and roll mid mids up until it sounds good (usually around 10 oclock). Then adjust presence to around 10 oclock to add some cut.
 
My nitro and promod have the treble at zero, but the presence is at 11 o'clock. I think it's best that way for me anyways. Most other amps it's 40-50%, never past 50%. The mids are always past 50% bass is normally under 50%
 
psychodave":239u0vgs said:
I do it with the Uberschall. I put all tone controls on 0 and roll mid mids up until it sounds good (usually around 10 oclock). Then adjust presence to around 10 oclock to add some cut.
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:thumbsup: mids noon/prescence noon/treble 0-9'oclock for me
 
"I saw a interview about Eric Johnson and his guitar tones and he runs his treble at zero."

I saw EJ with Mike Stern, neither had any treble on or "bright" toggles switched on.

Blanket coverage on all tone.

A MESA/Boogie Mark series amp without the GEQ is an amp with a blanket over it even with the treble cranked. Fender twin amps are very very bright sounding amps to start with and sound bright with the treble low and the bright switch off.
 
my higher frequency hearing id dodge so my trebles on full :lol: :LOL:
 
I think it's case by case. It also may be different with different preamp tubes and their brightness, speakers, etc.
 
Tried this on a DSL100HR last night. Previous settings were in the ballpark of:

Res - 11:00
Pres - noon
Bass - 9:30
Mids - 10:00
Treble - noon

Settings after:

Res - 11:00
Pres - 3:00
Bass - 10:30
Mids - 3:00
Treb - off

Worked out pretty well. Darker and thicker. Worked out great for some things but lacked some bite with others. I will leave it like this for a while and keep tweaking.
 
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