Uberschall vs Aldrich Clip

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harddriver said:
I hate to say this but the Aldrich sounded kinda dull, not like other Aldrich's I've heard in past clips. Usually Cameron Aldrich's have alot of aggressive cut and bite yet still retain clarity while providing some tight low end punch. :unsure:

The Uber does have a more compressed gain attack to it which is what Bogner is famous for but the massive lowend came through alot more with the Uber in your recording chain.

Great comparison video! Thanks!:2thumbsup:
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I found a lot of these modded Marshall’s (including some Cam’s I’ve had, not all) initially seem very aggressive and bite-y on their own, but vs some other amps I’ve had can often somehow come off distant or strangely muffled
 
I've been able to spend a lot time with 2-3 Bogner Uberschalls, can't remember which Revs maybe blue? I've been able to dial in decent high gain tones, but something about them feels uncomfortable. It's as if it sounds a bit sterile or it feels like there's not enough saturation and I have to really dig in when I play.. Then I listen to clips like this and it sounds great. Maybe because I'm not the one playing it? Anyone have similar experiences?
 
vultures said:
I've been able to spend a lot time with 2-3 Bogner Uberschalls, can't remember which Revs maybe blue? I've been able to dial in decent high gain tones, but something about them feels uncomfortable. It's as if it sounds a bit sterile or it feels like there's not enough saturation and I have to really dig in when I play.. Then I listen to clips like this and it sounds great. Maybe because I'm not the one playing it? Anyone have similar experiences?
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Sounds like it was probably either a Rev Blue or Twin Jet you must’ve tried. The early ones (ant least my Rev 1) are some of the easiest playing and most saturated amps I’ve played. They also need to be dialed in almost the exact opposite of how I normally dial in most amps: ch volume up high, less on the global volume, lower on presence and mids, high on treble, although the new Uber Ultra i just got I dial in a bit differently
 
Racerxrated said:
Both sound great; Uber has a touch more clarity but the Aldrich has more cut. If the one Uber I tried in a store sounded like that I would have left with it.
Nice work Blake!
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More cut? I guess more midrangey, but to me this Aldrich came off kinda muffled and softer textured in this comparo clip, but more vintage. The Uber almost made it come off like a Friedman comparatively lol, which I never thought I’d say about a Bogner vs a Cameron
 
Bxlxaxkxe said:
Keep in mind Bobby they all kinda vary on these old ones. Had another rev green recently that sounded noticeably different. The Ultra has more of that filter thing happening similar to the Aldrich here
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Outta curiosity were the 2 Rev 2 Uber’s you had far off from each other in serial #’s? I have noticed with some amps big differences in the same supposed revisions, but serial numbers kinda far away from each other, although can’t say exactly how much of that is really serial number
 
braintheory said:
Outta curiosity were the 2 Rev 2 Uber’s you had far off from each other in serial #’s? I have noticed with some amps big differences in the same supposed revisions, but serial numbers kinda far away from each other, although can’t say exactly how much of that is really serial number
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Actually really close. Within like 15

Doesn’t really make sense but who knows why they’re different. Not a super subtle thing though
 
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braintheory said:
It sounds to me more or less like the other early Uber’s I’ve played. He dialed it in similar-ish to me (having the ch volume higher and global volume lower is very important imo). My Uber Rev 1 also kicked some killer amps outta my stable
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It does sound like the other Ubers I've heard to, including the original Rev 1 that I sold to James Lugo, which sounded incredible, but was not even close to Camerons I had at the time. That's why I kept the Camerons and sold the Ubers.
braintheory said:
I found a lot of these modded Marshall’s (including some Cam’s I’ve had, not all) initially seem very aggressive and bite-y on their own, but vs some other amps I’ve had can often somehow come off distant or strangely muffled
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My experience with them are the very opposite... the Camerons always had a lot more presence, bite and were way more clear than the vast majority of the amps I've A/B them with, and I'm talking about a lot of them.
braintheory said:
More cut? I guess more midrangey, but to me this Aldrich came off kinda muffled and softer textured in this comparo clip, but more vintage. The Uber almost made it come off like a Friedman comparatively lol, which I never thought I’d say about a Bogner vs a Cameron
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The Aldrich, which is a bright and aggressive sounding platform by nature, is sounding extremely muffled and lifeless on this video, completely different from how it sounds in person, while the Uber is very punchy and aggressive, like it does in real life. However, I agree 100% with @vultures and every client I had at my studio, for the three years I've had the Ubershall Rev1, and asked to track with it, regretted their decision with one single passage on the song, and asked to change amps. Reason why? It was Ione of the stiffest amps to play in the whole studio collection.
Ubers are amazing sounding amps, like most Bogners, but extremely stiff to play. Like most Bogners.

Now, it could be just that Blake didn't bond with the Aldrich, therefore, the amp would not perform as well him playing in.
But when I did a side by side with my Camerons and my Ubers, the Uber was the one to go.
Again, I'm so glad Blake didn't bond with the amp, so I could have a shot at it.
Btw, do you by any chance have any audio clips of this Aldrich mod @psychodave ?
 
SBlue said:
It does sound like the other Ubers I've heard to, including the original Rev 1 that I sold to James Lugo, which sounded incredible, but was not even close to Camerons I had at the time. That's why I kept the Camerons and sold the Ubers.

My experience with them are the very opposite... the Camerons always had a lot more presence, bite and were way more clear than the vast majority of the amps I've A/B them with, and I'm talking about a lot of them.

The Aldrich, which is a bright and aggressive sounding platform by nature, is sounding extremely muffled and lifeless on this video, completely different from how it sounds in person, while the Uber is very punchy and aggressive, like it does in real life. However, I agree 100% with @vultures and every client I had at my studio, for the three years I've had the Ubershall Rev1, and asked to track with it, regretted their decision with one single passage on the song, and asked to change amps. Reason why? It was Ione of the stiffest amps to play in the whole studio collection.
Ubers are amazing sounding amps, like most Bogners, but extremely stiff to play. Like most Bogners.

Now, it could be just that Blake didn't bond with the Aldrich, therefore, the amp would not perform as well him playing in.
But when I did a side by side with my Camerons and my Ubers, the Uber was the one to go.
Again, I'm so glad Blake didn't bond with the amp, so I could have a shot at it.
Btw, do you by any chance have any audio clips of this Aldrich mod @psychodave ?
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Hm my experience has in many ways been opposite. Once I got the balance right with the ch and global volumes it’s actually one of my more cutting amps (although I didn’t feel this way before I got that part right) and I actually find it to be one of the easiest, greasiest amps to play that I’ve got along with my Hermansson’s, opposite of stiff. Those amps play themselves, while I find Wizard's to be amps that are more challenging to play, where I need to be more on point. If you’re in NY come on by to hear it. Other than the 1st Uber I haven't cared much for other Bogner's. I agree though that most Cameron mods I had were bright, present amps
 
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braintheory said:
More cut? I guess more midrangey, but to me this Aldrich came off kinda muffled and softer textured in this comparo clip, but more vintage. The Uber almost made it come off like a Friedman comparatively lol, which I never thought I’d say about a Bogner vs a Cameron
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Cut/midrange; same same.
 
Personally, the best way to EQ a Marshall, stock or modded, is by diming the presence and start the treble at 0 and bring it up till you like it. Bass, mids wherever you want but the only way to get that signature bite is with the presence up high. If you don't, the clarity can suffer and the kerrang is flat.
 
braintheory said:
I found a lot of these modded Marshall’s (including some Cam’s I’ve had, not all) initially seem very aggressive and bite-y on their own, but vs some other amps I’ve had can often somehow come off distant or strangely muffled
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Yeah I was surprised by this clip, I usually don't care too much for Uber's but the Aldrich wasn't living up to what I've heard in the past...who knows maybe my ears will be different tomorrow.........:p:thumbsup:
 
A Cameron Aldrich is different than a Marshall-modded Cameron. Thst is still my favorite gain tone of all time.
 
That Aldrich sounds under the weather vs any other clips I’ve heard.
 
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