Van Halen Balance tour (Amsterdam)

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God damn, i`m an avid Van Halen fan from back in the day but this has got to be in the top Halen tones.

Balance to me is probably my favorite album from them and i heavily trip on Women and Children First and Van Halen II.

 
Was that a SLO or the CAE being used on that time frame?
 
The biggest part of what is giving that sound it's character is the W/D/W setup and an Eventide H3000 harmonizer set for delay and micropitchshift. (-9 cents/500ms delay Left, +9 cents/250ms delay Right, center cab is just the sound from the amp). Almost any high gain amp is gonna sound like this tone with that setup. Cool tone for sure, easy to get with an H3000 or similar harmonizer, although the Eventides have a pretty unique sound to me...

Steve
 
I've always liked VH w/Sammy, but he's got to be one of the worst lyricists ever :lol: :LOL:
 
sah5150":2d1q70rs said:
The biggest part of what is giving that sound it's character is the W/D/W setup and an Eventide H3000 harmonizer set for delay and micropitchshift. (-9 cents/500ms delay Left, +9 cents/250ms delay Right, center cab is just the sound from the amp). Almost any high gain amp is gonna sound like this tone with that setup. Cool tone for sure, easy to get with an H3000 or similar harmonizer, although the Eventides have a pretty unique sound to me...

Steve

:thumbsup:

Doing that exactly with my G-System and Gryphon.

It sounds fantastic.
 
jcj":y9z6ustj said:
I've always liked VH w/Sammy, but he's got to be one of the worst lyricists ever :lol: :LOL:
His lyrics actually ruin it for me. The absolute pits! :D

Steve
 
Sounds cool but I'll take a semi-dry tone over that any day. :thumbsup:
 
Look up the video for Amsterdam when they performed on the John Stewart show! Holy SH#T - that was a great representation of his tone from that era. You could hear it so clearly in the mix.

This would have been the 5150.
 
sah5150":1xa0i27z said:
The biggest part of what is giving that sound it's character is the W/D/W setup and an Eventide H3000 harmonizer set for delay and micropitchshift. (-9 cents/500ms delay Left, +9 cents/250ms delay Right, center cab is just the sound from the amp). Almost any high gain amp is gonna sound like this tone with that setup. Cool tone for sure, easy to get with an H3000 or similar harmonizer, although the Eventides have a pretty unique sound to me...

Steve

Steve, how is the Pitchfactor at doing this kind of thing? The H3000 would be ideal, but maybe the Pitchfactor with the 910/949 setting might be okay too?
 
reverymike":o9lrx1u4 said:
sah5150":o9lrx1u4 said:
The biggest part of what is giving that sound it's character is the W/D/W setup and an Eventide H3000 harmonizer set for delay and micropitchshift. (-9 cents/500ms delay Left, +9 cents/250ms delay Right, center cab is just the sound from the amp). Almost any high gain amp is gonna sound like this tone with that setup. Cool tone for sure, easy to get with an H3000 or similar harmonizer, although the Eventides have a pretty unique sound to me...

Steve

Steve, how is the Pitchfactor at doing this kind of thing? The H3000 would be ideal, but maybe the Pitchfactor with the 910/949 setting might be okay too?
I've never tried one, but if it can do the type of delay/micropitchshifting that I'm suggesting, it should be fine. I can get it pretty much with my Axe-FX Ultra, but the H3000 is just a bit different than any other pitch shifting I've heard...

Steve
 
sah5150":1uevwyt3 said:
jcj":1uevwyt3 said:
I've always liked VH w/Sammy, but he's got to be one of the worst lyricists ever :lol: :LOL:
His lyrics actually ruin it for me. The absolute pits! :D

Steve

For me, it's like Extreme...dig the melodies and guitar, so I just try and tune out the lyrical content, completely :D

While I'm at it, I'll toss Coverdale in there, too....killer voice...but his lyrics? :D
 
reverymike":ds2sg6p1 said:
Look up the video for Amsterdam when they performed on the John Stewart show! Holy SH#T - that was a great representation of his tone from that era. You could hear it so clearly in the mix.

This would have been the 5150.


Got that John Stewart '96 era Halen gig on a DVD I burned from the net. Killer show & tones :rock:

Don't Tell Me What Love Can Do sounds killer as well on this
 
Yep, Al had a damaged vertebrae during that time. I remember meeting them on that tour, and the two rules were 1. Take your rings off if you are going to shake Eddie's hand. And, 2. Do not put your arm around Al's neck and shoulders during the photo op.
 
LP Freak":1bzwk73m said:
Sounds cool but I'll take a semi-dry tone over that any day. :thumbsup:


+1. Too much processing for me. Especially to use as a main sound.
 
sah5150":2vdmazxl said:
The biggest part of what is giving that sound it's character is the W/D/W setup and an Eventide H3000 harmonizer set for delay and micropitchshift. (-9 cents/500ms delay Left, +9 cents/250ms delay Right, center cab is just the sound from the amp). Almost any high gain amp is gonna sound like this tone with that setup. Cool tone for sure, easy to get with an H3000 or similar harmonizer, although the Eventides have a pretty unique sound to me...

Steve
+ 1 :rock:
 
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