What wickedness sounds like

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These people make me sick. People whose entire existence has been acquired by the sword. The bible says they will also die by the sword.

 
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Doesn’t that verse more apply to mercenaries, robbers and soldiers? Guess this would count 🤣
 
I think the practice is gross as is the industry around it, but I’ve come to conclude that banning it violates a woman’s rights to her body. To keep it simple, consider rape. While completely innocent, the baby is essentially an uninvited trespasser.
 
acceptance said:
I think the practice is gross as is the industry around it, but I’ve come to conclude that banning it violates a woman’s rights to her body. To keep it simple, consider rape. While completely innocent, the baby is essentially an uninvited trespasser.
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I wouldn't necessarily go that far, but I do conclude that if it isn't mine it's not MY right. And we already know the government doesn't deserve the right.
 
Floyd Eye said:
I wouldn't necessarily go that far, but I do conclude that if it isn't mine it's not MY right. And we already know the government doesn't deserve the right.
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Even if you had a claim to the baby, it would still be her body, right? I mean, some parent would likely object to you shooting their kid if he was robbing your house. But to be clear, I don’t necessarily think a woman has a right to kill the baby, just expel it, which at this point usually means death.
 
acceptance said:
Even if you had a claim to the baby, it would still be her body, right? I mean, some parent would likely object to you shooting their kid if he was robbing your house. But to be clear, I don’t necessarily think a woman has a right to kill the baby, just expel it, which at this point usually means death.
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Well I suppose. I can tell you that when my first wife got pregnant I was forcibly removed from a PP by cops because I was literally on my knees begging her not to kill my baby. Kind of a sore spot for me, but I guess I have to concede that it isn't my right to force her to carry and deliver my baby. Even if I do own 50% of what she's killing.

Strange. That experience kind of changed my mind about abortion in general. I now believe that even if taxpayers are funding abortions it's probably still cheaper than paying for the welfare and eventual incarceration the kid is going to cost. And my penchant for misanthropy keeps me from caring about the murder aspect of it. Kinda like when my baby niece died of a heroin overdose any shred of empathy I had for junkies disappeared. To me it's a self inflicted injury and i'm filled with ennui.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Well I suppose. I can tell you that when my first wife got pregnant I was forcibly removed from a PP by cops because I was literally on my knees begging her not to kill my baby. Kind of a sore spot for me, but I guess I have to concede that it isn't my right to force her to carry and deliver my baby. Even if I do own 50% of what she's killing.

Strange. That experience kind of changed my mind about abortion in general. I now believe that even if taxpayers are funding abortions it's probably still cheaper than paying for the welfare and eventual incarceration the kid is going to cost. And my penchant for misanthropy keeps me from caring about the murder aspect of it. Kinda like when my baby niece died of a heroin overdose any shred of empathy I had for junkies disappeared. To me it's a self inflicted injury and i'm filled with ennui.
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Sorry to hear brother, that’s rough.

Regarding junkies, yeah it’s self inflicted, but I generally see it as tragic, not stupid. They share blame, but it’s not all their fault. Upbringing, circumstances, genetics all play a part. 😔
 
acceptance said:
I think the practice is gross as is the industry around it, but I’ve come to conclude that banning it violates a woman’s rights to her body. To keep it simple, consider rape. While completely innocent, the baby is essentially an uninvited trespasser.
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I dated a woman who aborted her child. Let me tell you, total headcase about it. Her child would be about the same age as my daughter. So there she is on facebook looking at the family she doesn't have. And she's sterile now too so now she doesn't have the option. Stick that in your woman's rights.

You don't abort a child or rape and suddenly become un-raped. It doesn't remove any of the trauma. The reality is it just adds to the mind dysfunction.
 
acceptance said:
Sorry to hear brother, that’s rough.

Regarding junkies, yeah it’s self inflicted, but I generally see it as tragic, not stupid. They share blame, but it’s not all their fault. Upbringing, circumstances, genetics all play a part. 😔
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I don't really buy all that. Plenty of people pull themselves up out of the shit. I could concede it is tragic, nevertheless I feel no sympathy for them.
 
VonBonfire said:
I dated a woman who aborted her child. Let me tell you, total headcase about it. Her child would be about the same age as my daughter. So there she is on facebook looking at the family she doesn't have. And she's sterile now too so now she doesn't have the option. Stick that in your woman's rights.

You don't abort a child or rape and suddenly become un-raped. It doesn't remove any of the trauma. The reality is it just adds to the mind dysfunction.
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My first wife never had kids. I never had kids of my own. I raised my step daughter since she was 8 and I am her dad, but no biological kids. Patriarchal family line ends with me too. I got a lot of shit I'm going to have to sell before I die because I have no son to give it to. Que sera sera.
 
VonBonfire said:
I dated a woman who aborted her child. Let me tell you, total headcase about it. Her child would be about the same age as my daughter. So there she is on facebook looking at the family she doesn't have. And she's sterile now too so now she doesn't have the option. Stick that in your woman's rights.

You don't abort a child or rape and suddenly become un-raped. It doesn't remove any of the trauma. The reality is it just adds to the mind dysfunction.
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I don’t disagree with any of that. I’m just saying I believe women should control their own bodies (and likewise for men).
 
Floyd Eye said:
I don't really buy all that. Plenty of people pull themselves up out of the shit. I could concede it is tragic, nevertheless I feel no sympathy for them.
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I can’t say for sure but my impression is that a lot of life of out of our control. And I strongly suspect (and could be wrong), that if you or I had different circumstances we’d be no different.
 
Junkies got lotsa pain, often can’t catch a break even if they turned in as many job apps and tried as hard as anyone else. Everyone gives up at some point.
 
Floyd Eye said:
My first wife never had kids. I never had kids of my own. I raised my step daughter since she was 8 and I am her dad, but no biological kids. Patriarchal family line ends with me too. I got a lot of shit I'm going to have to sell before I die because I have no son to give it to. Que sera sera.
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I had a son unplanned. Wife came to my work with a brown paper bag and handed it to me. Inside was a pregnancy tester with a positive result. Didn't know what I was gonna do but my bro was like "you're havin' that baby" and I just rolled with it. Kid is way smarter and a way better man than I will ever be. Out of four siblings I'm the only one with a son who will carry the family name.
acceptance said:
I don’t disagree with any of that. I’m just saying I believe women should control their own bodies (and likewise for men).
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Close your legs. Ain't that hard is it? Abortions are for irresponsible losers and whores.A bit of self discipline would change the world for the better. Ain't that difficult.
 
acceptance said:
I can’t say for sure but my impression is that a lot of life of out of our control. And I strongly suspect (and could be wrong), that if you or I had different circumstances we’d be no different.
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I was hoping not to get too far into it, but lemme just say that my circumstances weren't always great and I did a little time with smack and coke myself. So I can assure you I would be different.
 
acceptance said:
Junkies got lotsa pain, often can’t catch a break even if they turned in as many job apps and tried as hard as anyone else. Everyone gives up at some point.
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Yep. I did after my first wife left me. 13 years in I was still madly in love with her. I was crushed. I quit fucking around though and got my shit straight. And I didn't get the benefit of multiple people or agencies or programs. After running a perfectly good business into the ground I just fucking quit one day and after a week of hell, that was that.
 
VonBonfire said:
Close your legs. Ain't that hard is it? Abortions are for irresponsible losers and whores.A bit of self discipline would change the world for the better. Ain't that difficult.
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Again, I’m not disagreeing with you, I just prioritize self-ownership, the right to make mistakes, be a loser, etc.
 
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