What's wrong with me???? W/D/W question

[AndyK]

I do a mini W/D setup using my head and cab for dry, a suhr line out box from my power brake, to my Lexicon FX unit. That goes into my wet amp's FX loop - a tiny Trademark 10 combo! For home use, I now have a 1959 reissue with killer reverb, without an FX loop messing up the dry tone!

When I don't have my TM-10 combo on, the amp now sounds too dry! Once you go W/D...

 

[mentoneman]

only downside is the xd aint no peacemaker, and 1x10 < 4x12

my back says W/D/W with two 1x12's, my ears tell me 4x12's or nothing at all

4x12s have much girth

ultimately id love the sound/feel/experience of a killer w/d/w live rig from a small floorboard

maybe im just flat out wrong but if i can listen to a vh or ej or landau CD and hear a digital reproduction of those EXACT tones
shouldnt there be a digital guitar tone device that reproduces those tones EXACTLY? at least as a starting point.
the feel thing is a seperate task but should also be quatifiable

line 6 should hire guys like cameron, victor mason, greg germino, alan phillips, two rock...smaller amp company builders
and work with them intimately to put the amp modelling thing where it should be

hire italo the rack effects master and fix the effects algorhythms

if rigtalk, tone merchants, and rack systems can ressurect the cameron amp line 6 should establish total dominance in this realm.
the feel is another subject

 

[petejt]

My best advice is to incorporate both wet and dry signal in the "wet" cabinets. This way you utilize all of the cabinets potential, not just the wet sound.

Concur absolutely - more of a "damp / dry / damp" setup ...I really do think this method sounds much better.

I don't concur, haha .

I disagree, because with "damp"/dry/"damp", it would diminish the stereo image. Stuff like chorusing effects wouldn't really work, because for chorusing to work properly you need to keep the wet and dry signals completely separate all the way through the signal chains, so they can mix in the air to create the effect.

You may as well run your chorus effect in mono if you're going to run "damp"/dry/"damp", and then it will diminish the stereo image, which pretty much contradicts the purpose of a chorus effect in the first place.

Another thing is if you want a full-on vibrato/panning chorus effect, where the whole lot is wet and and the signal is shifting from one side to the other. Zach's YouTube video of where Bob Bradshaw runs through his rig, explains exactly that. You won't get that with a "damp"/dry/"damp" rig.


If your effects sound too processed when running wet/dry/wet, well, then just run the wet cabs at half the volume of the centre dry cab. Use volume as a mixing tool.