Where's the Hagen guys?

[psbhachu]

I've been running my Hagen with a Herbert and its the best complementing pair i've used. I will be using them both in studio to record the Paper Skulls EP in December.

Hagen is a fantastic amp!!!

 

[RJF]

Low and behold, one comes up for sale at a small Guitar Center in my little town. GC credit does 12months no interest on used gear now. I said why not. I couldn't bring it home though, hasn't been there long enough to clear the 30 day hold on used gear.

 

[peterc52]

Congrats!! My first Diezel. Liked a lot!

 

[RJF]

I was finally able to bring home my Hagen. I really like it, it sounds considerably different than either the Herbert or VH4. It's tighter than the Herbert, similar to the VH4 but not quite as stiff. I can see how it would work really well with 7 and 8 strings, I'm impressed with how it sounds with drop C 6 string.

CH3 is where it's at, CH4 sounds weak in comparison. I'm using an 808 in front.

 

[psbhachu]

I was finally able to bring home my Hagen. I really like it, it sounds considerably different than either the Herbert or VH4. It's tighter than the Herbert, similar to the VH4 but not quite as stiff. I can see how it would work really well with 7 and 8 strings, I'm impressed with how it sounds with drop C 6 string.

CH3 is where it's at, CH4 sounds weak in comparison. I'm using an 808 in front.

Its exactly why I tune down to half step to get the best out of the Hagen.

Just wait until you run it with the Herbert. Channel 4 sounds pretty good to be. I dial the gain back less that channel 3 and its just amazing.

Looking forward to hearing your opinion when running them together

 

[~Abstract~]

I was finally able to bring home my Hagen. I really like it, it sounds considerably different than either the Herbert or VH4. It's tighter than the Herbert, similar to the VH4 but not quite as stiff. I can see how it would work really well with 7 and 8 strings, I'm impressed with how it sounds with drop C 6 string.

CH3 is where it's at, CH4 sounds weak in comparison. I'm using an 808 in front.

Its exactly why I tune down to half step to get the best out of the Hagen.

Just wait until you run it with the Herbert. Channel 4 sounds pretty good to be. I dial the gain back less that channel 3 and its just amazing.

Looking forward to hearing your opinion when running them together

I always felt the Herbert and VH4 played better together.

 

[RJF]

I was finally able to bring home my Hagen. I really like it, it sounds considerably different than either the Herbert or VH4. It's tighter than the Herbert, similar to the VH4 but not quite as stiff. I can see how it would work really well with 7 and 8 strings, I'm impressed with how it sounds with drop C 6 string.

CH3 is where it's at, CH4 sounds weak in comparison. I'm using an 808 in front.

Its exactly why I tune down to half step to get the best out of the Hagen.

Just wait until you run it with the Herbert. Channel 4 sounds pretty good to be. I dial the gain back less that channel 3 and its just amazing.

Looking forward to hearing your opinion when running them together

I get it I get it. You've said that multiple times in multiple threads now.

I run the gain at 12:30 on ch3 and 9oclock on ch4. Ch3 sounds so much bigger and open than 4.

I will try my Herbert and Hagen together in a few weeks, so far I've played my Hagen once for 30m in the last week. I have a busy work schedule right now.

I I do hope I prefer the Hagen, since the VH4's parallel switchable loop is driving me nuts. It just doesn't work with my G major 2. I get this weird modulated sound that is obviously out of phase. I can't use the serial on it because I need the loop to be switchable because I like my rhythm tone dry since the GM2 does some tone coloration.

I do however love the VH4 in a dual head setup since the controls are on an angle and work perfectly as the bottom head.

 

[psbhachu]

I was finally able to bring home my Hagen. I really like it, it sounds considerably different than either the Herbert or VH4. It's tighter than the Herbert, similar to the VH4 but not quite as stiff. I can see how it would work really well with 7 and 8 strings, I'm impressed with how it sounds with drop C 6 string.

CH3 is where it's at, CH4 sounds weak in comparison. I'm using an 808 in front.

Its exactly why I tune down to half step to get the best out of the Hagen.

Just wait until you run it with the Herbert. Channel 4 sounds pretty good to be. I dial the gain back less that channel 3 and its just amazing.

Looking forward to hearing your opinion when running them together

I always felt the Herbert and VH4 played better together.

They are a good combination. I prefer the Hagen and Herbert. They seem to fill in each others gaps and when run through a FL4x12 and RL4x12 its pure heaven. The VH4 I find to be more of a standalone amp. Only a handful of amps sound good with it as a combination.

I ran a VH4 and Hagen together for a few months and while they sounded amazing, I found myself dialing in more of the Hagen. The Herbert is the amp that sounds amazing with both the VH4 and Hagen.

I was finally able to bring home my Hagen. I really like it, it sounds considerably different than either the Herbert or VH4. It's tighter than the Herbert, similar to the VH4 but not quite as stiff. I can see how it would work really well with 7 and 8 strings, I'm impressed with how it sounds with drop C 6 string.

CH3 is where it's at, CH4 sounds weak in comparison. I'm using an 808 in front.

Its exactly why I tune down to half step to get the best out of the Hagen.

Just wait until you run it with the Herbert. Channel 4 sounds pretty good to be. I dial the gain back less that channel 3 and its just amazing.

Looking forward to hearing your opinion when running them together

I get it I get it. You've said that multiple times in multiple threads now.

I run the gain at 12:30 on ch3 and 9oclock on ch4. Ch3 sounds so much bigger and open than 4.

I will try my Herbert and Hagen together in a few weeks, so far I've played my Hagen once for 30m in the last week. I have a busy work schedule right now.

I I do hope I prefer the Hagen, since the VH4's parallel switchable loop is driving me nuts. It just doesn't work with my G major 2. I get this weird modulated sound that is obviously out of phase. I can't use the serial on it because I need the loop to be switchable because I like my rhythm tone dry since the GM2 does some tone coloration.

I do however love the VH4 in a dual head setup since the controls are on an angle and work perfectly as the bottom head.

HURRY UP AND DO IT!!!

I got rid of the G-Major as I found it wasn't up to the job. I found it sucked tone too much and just lacked the 'Quality of Effects' TC pride themselves in. I've gone back to a handful of pedals and have a looper switch them in and out. This way I achieve a more direct tone that having to go through processors.

 

[RJF]

HURRY UP AND DO IT!!!

I got rid of the G-Major as I found it wasn't up to the job. I found it sucked tone too much and just lacked the 'Quality of Effects' TC pride themselves in. I've gone back to a handful of pedals and have a looper switch them in and out. This way I achieve a more direct tone that having to go through processors.

Nah. Pedals are not my thing. I have my rig setup in true stereo, with the FX loop of each amp running through my rack processor. I just bypass the Gmajor and run a completely dry sound for my rhythms, and I don't notice any negatives in my tone for my lead wet sounds, by the time the Gmjor adds delay, chorus, etc. It's loaded up enough on effects at that point that I can't tell any kind of real difference.

 

[RJF]

HURRY UP AND DO IT!!!

I got rid of the G-Major as I found it wasn't up to the job. I found it sucked tone too much and just lacked the 'Quality of Effects' TC pride themselves in. I've gone back to a handful of pedals and have a looper switch them in and out. This way I achieve a more direct tone that having to go through processors.

I tried The Hagen/Herbert combo. I can't tell much of a difference really. Infact I might almost like VH4 ch3/Herbert ch2+ better. I like the loop much better in the Hagen, so it might stay matched up with my Herbert.

 

[bananaladonpcp]

Damn it RJF.... Now I have to find a Hagen to try.......



-Alex

 

[stratjacket]

For what it's worth, the Hagen was my first Diezel amp. I've never tried the others. When I was ready to do something different, I added the FL German made K100 4x12 cab. To try the others I'd have to sell/trade the Hagen and I just couldn't do that. I do combine it with an Bogner Uber with an UberKab. Amazing sounds with those 2.

I haven't posted in a while or looked for new apps because I've just been extremely satisfied with this setup.

Edited: In my half asleep writing, I wrote Engle instead of Bogner when describing the Uber. ha

 

[steve_k]

I've had one since July, but just now getting around to playing it. First impressions is I am liking it a little better than the VH4. Completely different voicing. Channel 1 and 2 for Crunch & Munch are great. 4 is pure liquid. 3 had a wide berth. All 4 channels have a huge thump to them, sort of like the Herbert, with the clarity and punch of the VH4. Add to that all of Peter's other little extra's, and it''s a thumbs up.

 

[RJF]

. All 4 channels have a huge thump to them, sort of like the Herbert, with the clarity and punch of the VH4. Add to that all of Peter's other little extra's, and it''s a thumbs up.

Pretty much sums it up IMHO.

 

[Blankenberg]

I know where the Hagen guys are, they are busy playing the best amp in the world!

 

[GtarLover]

I know where the Hagen guys are, they are busy playing the best amp in the world!

You know it!!
Diezel RULZ

 

[Obiwan]

I own the Hagen since 2011, and play in a death/thrash Metal band. Before having this amp, I have been on the quest for my tone for about 15 years. My guitar is Blackmachine B8 and I always felt to be almost there tone wise but the Lundgren pickups seemed to sterile and harsh for my taste. Since a few months I have swapped the Lundgren M8 pickups with Lace Aluma Deathbar and am now in heaven.

This combination is what I have been looking for, since I grabbed a guitar for the first time. The new pickups deliver very well balanced, extremely open, clear tone and allow exploring all the colours that the Hagen is able to deliver. I get crystal clear cleans and also very articulated distorted sounds with the needed depth, without losing any clarity whatsoever.

In my case it’s true that as a Hagen player I spend my time playing. I look forward to every rehearsal and enjoy every single tone that comes out of the loudspeakers. I really could not be happier and would like to thank Mr. Peter Diezel and all others guys at Diezel for having developed and built this amp. I do not find the right words to describe how perfect everything sounds, so just would like to say: Vielen herzlichen Dank!

I played, owned and tested various Engl, Laboga, Mesa Boogie, Blackstar, you name it. Without taking anything away from the previously named, Diezel was for my taste the only brand being able to help me finding the sound I was looking by only plugging in the guitar without any need of extra rig.


P.S. My bandmate plays an “old” VH4 and also gets amazing tones, I believe that with the right box, guitar and pickups and whatever Diezel amp one chooses to go with, nothing can go wrong, it is just pure excellent quality.

So, looking again forward for tonights rehearsal

 

[WizardSouth-JP]

I picked up a used Hagen in pretty great shape and have to say - after gassing for this amp for a while I am super impressed. It likes any tuning/guitar you plug into it; from E standard Strat style guitars to Baritone 8 strings. It's a fantastic amp.

 

[Woody-tone]

I bought one used. There definitely must be something wrong with it. It sounds almost like it is being boosted to hard in the front. Also sounds a little phasey in the mid-range. I have re-tubed and biased and that didn't help so then next step is to send it in for repair. I think that the sound I am looking for is in there but I have to get it working properly.

 

[Peter Diezel]

Hi Woody,

I boost hard at the input but not more than any other manufactures.
Please explain "phasey".

Thanks a lot,
Peter