CRAIG4FSU
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Dan Gleesak
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CRAIG4FSU
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This stuff is hard to get your mind around at first. I’ve listened to metal/death metal since the mid 80’s. The music is heavy AF then you hear the Japanese pop vocals. That and the choreography is growing on me me, but damn, that four piece band is heavy.
Dan Gleesak
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CRAIG4FSU
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Gimme Chocolate came out on their debut album in 2014.
They were in mid teens and created the genre, Idle metal.
EDIT: Kawaii metal. Thanks MM.
They were in mid teens and created the genre, Idle metal.
EDIT: Kawaii metal. Thanks MM.
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Monkey Man
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No, they created the genre Kawaii Metal.
CRAIG4FSU
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I stand corrected.
Monkey Man
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No worries bro'.
The idol groups very-rarely, if ever, did metal.
Shortly after Baby Metal came out, Ladybeard and Ladybaby along with a few others got into it, each with its own "style". The genre's survived ever-since.
The idol groups very-rarely, if ever, did metal.
Shortly after Baby Metal came out, Ladybeard and Ladybaby along with a few others got into it, each with its own "style". The genre's survived ever-since.
Monkey Man
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OK, I just checked Wikipedia and it turns out I was right.
From the "Kawaii metal" page:
The Japanese girl group Babymetal is often credited with the creation and success of kawaii metal. In addition to Babymetal, kawaii metal acts such as Ladybaby have garnered media attention, as well as minor commercial attention, for performing songs of this genre.
Kawaii metal pioneers Babymetal, performing in The O2 Arena London in 2016.
Japanese heavy metal idol group Babymetal are considered the inventors of the kawaii metal genre.[5][6] The concept of kawaii metal started with Key “Kobametal” Kobayashi, the producer behind the group Babymetal. In an interview conducted by Billboard, Kobayashi explains that he was “just trying to do something no one had heard before”.[7] Kawaii metal gained international popularity in 2014, when the group Babymetal uploaded a song to Youtube called Gimme Chocolate!!. As of April 2021, the video has received over 140 million views.[8] Angelica Wallingford of City Times opined that Babymetal's eponymous debut album had pioneered the kawaii metal musical genre. Wallingford also defined the genre, and album, as a "mixture of varying genres including pop, rock, heavy metal, electronic dance music, industrial and symphonic death metal".[9] A guest contributor at The Independent believed that the genre was a derivative of J-pop and various extreme metal genres, namely "speed metal, power metal, black metal, and industrial metal".[10]
While discussing Babymetal, The Sydney Morning Herald's Rob Nash stated that the genre consisted of "sugary pop melodies over thrash metal". Nash also believed that the group's song "Awadama Fever" exemplified the genre, with its "slabs of angry guitar and undanceably fast breakbeats, while the girls [Babymetal] squeak about 'bubble ball fever' and chewing gum".[11]
Babymetal has remained extremely popular. In 2019, Babymetal became the first Asian artists to top Billboard’s Top Rock Albums chart, with their third studio album, Metal Galaxy.[12] Murray Stassen in Music Week commented that "Babymetal is, without a doubt, a genuine cross-genre musical phenomenon" and that, despite how the juxtaposition of metal and J-pop might not seem to make sense on paper: "[Babymetal has] proved that it can, and does work, and resistance to the Babymetal phenomenon is futile."[13]
Kawaii metal band Deadlift Lolita in 2017.
Discussing Ladybeard, and Ladybaby, Jake Cleland of The Sydney Morning Herald defined the genre as "saccharine pop with his heavy metal growling".[14] Alex Weiss of Paper defined the genre as "hard rock with sugary sweet pop hooks". Weiss also used Babymetal's songs "Karate" and "Road of Resistance" as examples to explain the differing lyrical perspective between the kawaii metal and other metal genres, stating that kawaii metal songs "offer a perspective often missing from the hyper-masculine, aggressive lyrics usually present in most of the [metal] genre's hits".[15] Felix Clay of Cracked.com also believed that the genre had less aggressive lyricism, citing the genre had lyrics about "pop music topics like kittens, chocolate, and fun".[1]
From the "Kawaii metal" page:
The Japanese girl group Babymetal is often credited with the creation and success of kawaii metal. In addition to Babymetal, kawaii metal acts such as Ladybaby have garnered media attention, as well as minor commercial attention, for performing songs of this genre.
History and characteristics[edit]
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Kawaii metal pioneers Babymetal, performing in The O2 Arena London in 2016.
Japanese heavy metal idol group Babymetal are considered the inventors of the kawaii metal genre.[5][6] The concept of kawaii metal started with Key “Kobametal” Kobayashi, the producer behind the group Babymetal. In an interview conducted by Billboard, Kobayashi explains that he was “just trying to do something no one had heard before”.[7] Kawaii metal gained international popularity in 2014, when the group Babymetal uploaded a song to Youtube called Gimme Chocolate!!. As of April 2021, the video has received over 140 million views.[8] Angelica Wallingford of City Times opined that Babymetal's eponymous debut album had pioneered the kawaii metal musical genre. Wallingford also defined the genre, and album, as a "mixture of varying genres including pop, rock, heavy metal, electronic dance music, industrial and symphonic death metal".[9] A guest contributor at The Independent believed that the genre was a derivative of J-pop and various extreme metal genres, namely "speed metal, power metal, black metal, and industrial metal".[10]
While discussing Babymetal, The Sydney Morning Herald's Rob Nash stated that the genre consisted of "sugary pop melodies over thrash metal". Nash also believed that the group's song "Awadama Fever" exemplified the genre, with its "slabs of angry guitar and undanceably fast breakbeats, while the girls [Babymetal] squeak about 'bubble ball fever' and chewing gum".[11]
Babymetal has remained extremely popular. In 2019, Babymetal became the first Asian artists to top Billboard’s Top Rock Albums chart, with their third studio album, Metal Galaxy.[12] Murray Stassen in Music Week commented that "Babymetal is, without a doubt, a genuine cross-genre musical phenomenon" and that, despite how the juxtaposition of metal and J-pop might not seem to make sense on paper: "[Babymetal has] proved that it can, and does work, and resistance to the Babymetal phenomenon is futile."[13]
Kawaii metal band Deadlift Lolita in 2017.
Discussing Ladybeard, and Ladybaby, Jake Cleland of The Sydney Morning Herald defined the genre as "saccharine pop with his heavy metal growling".[14] Alex Weiss of Paper defined the genre as "hard rock with sugary sweet pop hooks". Weiss also used Babymetal's songs "Karate" and "Road of Resistance" as examples to explain the differing lyrical perspective between the kawaii metal and other metal genres, stating that kawaii metal songs "offer a perspective often missing from the hyper-masculine, aggressive lyrics usually present in most of the [metal] genre's hits".[15] Felix Clay of Cracked.com also believed that the genre had less aggressive lyricism, citing the genre had lyrics about "pop music topics like kittens, chocolate, and fun".[1]
Dan Gleesak
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OK, I just checked Wikipedia and it turns out I was right.
From the "Kawaii metal" page:
The Japanese girl group Babymetal is often credited with the creation and success of kawaii metal. In addition to Babymetal, kawaii metal acts such as Ladybaby have garnered media attention, as well as minor commercial attention, for performing songs of this genre.
History and characteristics[edit]
Kawaii metal pioneers Babymetal, performing in The O2 Arena London in 2016.
Japanese heavy metal idol group Babymetal are considered the inventors of the kawaii metal genre.[5][6] The concept of kawaii metal started with Key “Kobametal” Kobayashi, the producer behind the group Babymetal. In an interview conducted by Billboard, Kobayashi explains that he was “just trying to do something no one had heard before”.[7] Kawaii metal gained international popularity in 2014, when the group Babymetal uploaded a song to Youtube called Gimme Chocolate!!. As of April 2021, the video has received over 140 million views.[8] Angelica Wallingford of City Times opined that Babymetal's eponymous debut album had pioneered the kawaii metal musical genre. Wallingford also defined the genre, and album, as a "mixture of varying genres including pop, rock, heavy metal, electronic dance music, industrial and symphonic death metal".[9] A guest contributor at The Independent believed that the genre was a derivative of J-pop and various extreme metal genres, namely "speed metal, power metal, black metal, and industrial metal".[10]
While discussing Babymetal, The Sydney Morning Herald's Rob Nash stated that the genre consisted of "sugary pop melodies over thrash metal". Nash also believed that the group's song "Awadama Fever" exemplified the genre, with its "slabs of angry guitar and undanceably fast breakbeats, while the girls [Babymetal] squeak about 'bubble ball fever' and chewing gum".[11]
Babymetal has remained extremely popular. In 2019, Babymetal became the first Asian artists to top Billboard’s Top Rock Albums chart, with their third studio album, Metal Galaxy.[12] Murray Stassen in Music Week commented that "Babymetal is, without a doubt, a genuine cross-genre musical phenomenon" and that, despite how the juxtaposition of metal and J-pop might not seem to make sense on paper: "[Babymetal has] proved that it can, and does work, and resistance to the Babymetal phenomenon is futile."[13]
Kawaii metal band Deadlift Lolita in 2017.
Discussing Ladybeard, and Ladybaby, Jake Cleland of The Sydney Morning Herald defined the genre as "saccharine pop with his heavy metal growling".[14] Alex Weiss of Paper defined the genre as "hard rock with sugary sweet pop hooks". Weiss also used Babymetal's songs "Karate" and "Road of Resistance" as examples to explain the differing lyrical perspective between the kawaii metal and other metal genres, stating that kawaii metal songs "offer a perspective often missing from the hyper-masculine, aggressive lyrics usually present in most of the [metal] genre's hits".[15] Felix Clay of Cracked.com also believed that the genre had less aggressive lyricism, citing the genre had lyrics about "pop music topics like kittens, chocolate, and fun".[1]
Do you know much about this dude? I've read that he has produced some BabyMetal stuff but he certainly seems to be an influence on the over all sound
Monkey Man
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Vocaloid metal IIRC.
Not really my thing mate.
Not really my thing mate.
CRAIG4FSU
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Monkey Man
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He nailed it. 
CRAIG4FSU
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No kidding. Intro, bridge, chorus, solo, hook, outro…. all of it.He nailed it.