Who makes their own cab IR's?

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I know there are hundreds out there that are studio ready or way better (in theory) than what any commoner could do yet when I listen to demos, I find a lot of the IR tones to be bass heavy and soft/rounded. When the same people mic their amps, what a difference! I then ask myself, why wouldn't they mic all the time? Now I ask, why don't they capture their own mic?

The eye opener for me was when I captured my own 2x12 with weber 65's in it with a couple of mics. I had a sound I rather liked. I A/B'd it with the mic and it was essentially spot on if I closed my eyes and flipped back and forth 10 times quickly. You'd be hard pressed to tell the difference was you lightly tweak any differences in level. This was using a magnum 44 power amp as well, nothing fancy. Just this week I loaded these up in my CAB M after a few years of forgetting about them and I gotta say, I still dig the sound. So do you guys trust the gear you have or do you find yourself flipping through the endless catalogue of tones?
 
i have done a couple with good results, i like the idea of capture my own power amps, mics, mic preamp, cab and speakers. i also got a vintage ampeg power amp and i'm planning to do some bass ir as well
 
I never tried nor have I really looked into trying to make my own IRs. Any tutorials you recommend?
 
I made a few of my cab! They are bthe only ones I use.
 
Yes, quite a few and I'm very happy with the results. It took quite some time to get it right, but it was worth it. Hours of good clean fun.
 
Just something clean and uncoloured, in my case a Yamaha P-series rack unit.
 
Cool. I am sure I could do better than the EHX magnum but seeing as it works so well, why bother
 
i prefer made IRs with analog(tube or SS) guitar/bass poweramps and later use a preamp or amp loop send for recording
 
That’s because all of these “experts” making IR’s are afraid of high end. Your ears aren’t lying to you, these people like garbage, murky, soft, hazy guitar tones. None of these big “IR makers” IR’s would work in a real mix, they have absolutely no high end. Don’t confuse high end with just sizzle, that’s not what I’m talking about. Real high mid presence of the actual core tone/note you hear: if you really listen to a lot of these, they can still be sizzly but dark at the same time, and this confused people. People often confuse “honky” with “bright”... sure there are exceptions ( maybe?), but like you, micing up my cabs blows away any IR I’ve ever used by a freakin Mile, not even close.
 
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That’s because all of these “experts” making IR’s are afraid of high end. Your ears aren’t lying to you, these people like garbage, murky, soft, hazy guitar tones. None of these big “IR makers” IR’s would work in a real mix, they have absolutely no high end. Don’t confuse high end with just sizzle, that’s not what I’m talking about. Real high mid presence of the actual core tone/note you hear: if you really listen to a lot of these, they can still be sizzly but dark at the same time, and this confused people. People often confuse “honky” with “bright”... sure there are exceptions ( maybe?), but like you, micing up my cabs blows away any IR I’ve ever used by a freakin Mile, not even close.
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But have you tried capturing an IR of your own setup? I know what you mean though, this was my gripe too. They sound good on their own but in the mix, too tubby or round. Nobody likes the top end anymore but you need it. Also, a lot of the great tones on albums when isolated can sound thin but that is what makes them sit in that mix. Also, the more important aspect of all... like drum samples, you won't sound like everyone else because your own IR's are a snapshot in time in your own environment with it's own room , cab, preamps , mic placement, and other setup variables. As such, that makes it unique.
 
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But have you tried capturing an IR of your own setup? I know what you mean though, this was my gripe too. They sound good on their own but in the mix, too tubby or round. Nobody likes the top end anymore but you need it. Also, a lot of the great tones on albums when isolated can sound thin but that is what makes them sit in that mix. Also, the more important aspect of all... like drum samples, you won't sound like everyone else because your own IR's are a snapshot in time in your own environment with it's own room , cab, preamps , mic placement, and other setup variables. As such, that makes it unique.
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The idea that a lot or “most” tracks on their own are thin is a complete fucking myth. This is simply not true in the least. Another internet fokelore myth that has been regurgitated into truth... I can assure you that’s not even close to true, especially in the high gain/metal world, you would be shocked at how just how much low end is on a lot of modern guitars in the last 15-20 years. And yes, you are correct: people are afraid of high end, it’s insane. Again, people would be shocked if they heard their favorite tones iso’d to see just how much top end is on them, it’s shocking even to me every time I hear it. Even tones some would deem as “dark”. You wanna play heavy fast music ? You’re gonna need that high end to cut through a dense mix, simple as that.

as far as capturing my own IR’s, I have not, just don’t have the need since my at home studio has an isolated room to crank up my cabs in. If I wanted to, the process is rather simple. That video, while great, is alittle complicated if you aren’t familiar with audio and studio jargon and workflow etc: I know it’s confusing for me for sure. But all you really need is a decent solid state linear power amp, your favorite mic pre ( or none, up to you), a mic, and a program like two notes blend IR. And obviously the cab.
 
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