Who remembers Blue Murder ... ?

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That first Blue Murder record is one of my favorite records ever. The playing by all is SO GOOOOOOOD!
 
The first Blue Murder and Badlands are two of my favorites.

I read some where that Ray Gillen from Badlands recorded vocals for the first Blue Murder album and someone decided to use John Sykes vocal tracks instead.
 
KILLER album. Sykes is such a ballsy player with the best vib in the business still I reckon!

Lyrics are a bit cheesy, but some seriously amazing playing on that album, it's basically 1987 part two.
 
If as a guitar player and music fan you can be negative about John Sykes then you're just hating for hating's sake. The man is the most complete package of any musician I've ever seen. Case in point: find me another player who could first write, then play & sing 'Still of the Night' live. I just don't know how he does it. Plus, the 2nd BMurder release is immense. I was just listening to it today. The solo work has some big moments too. Etc etc.
Carry on...
 
4406cuda":3j1o4e4l said:
The first Blue Murder and Badlands are two of my favorites.

I read some where that Ray Gillen from Badlands recorded vocals for the first Blue Murder album and someone decided to use John Sykes vocal tracks instead.
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Supposed to be demos out there somewhere....
 
Love the first album. Oddly enough, I just had it in in the car a few days ago.
 
Love this CD, to me it feels like 1987 part 2 but with some of the cheese removed.... not all of it but some of it. Love the Messa Colosseum tone. I heard he used to record LOUD, with those things almost maxed out. The slide bass on the album has a cool feel aswel, I wish the intro bass solo went on for longer haha. Out of Love is an amazing ballad with interesting twists that doesn't follow the normal ballad pattern which I like.

Only thing that bothers me is in Sex Child, the lyrics are creepy "little school girl" and all that, just a little weird thought I highly doubt it was meant to be.
 
danyeo":15lkph76 said:
Yeah, when Vai and Vandenburg joined the band all the balls in the sound of the band left with Sykes. As great as Vai is there's just a certain style of hard rock bad ass that he just doesn't have.
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Would love to hear the original basic tracks for Slip of the Tongue with Adrian playing before Vai got a hold of them. Adrian always claimed they were much heavier and more raw. Vai claimed there was basically nothing there when he got the tapes however there is video footage of WS...apparently a documentary was being filmed of the making of the album...and there's Adrian, recording the basic tracks before Vai came on board. Obviously the doc was never finished.

Still love the Blue Murder album...one of the few from that era that I still listen to on a regular basis.
 
Back in the day, I worked in a record store and picked up the first Blue Murder disc from the cut-out bin.
Best $4 I ever spent. Still play that disc regularly.
 
One of the first songs I heard from these guys and still one of my faves was Jelly Roll :rock:
Just a catchy groove. And that last part of the song....killer. :thumbsup:

 
I think the guy recording the Tokyo video was getting the audio off the house board cuz it was excellent. :thumbsup:
 
It`s pretty pricey but if you can find Bad Boy Live it more than worth a listen



 


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Huge tone! Zakk said in a GWq interview that he used the same setup on No Rest... that Sykes did on 1987 (JCM 800 combo into a 4x12), but the difference in tone is massive. Maybe John used the Colesium alongside that? Anyone have more info?
 
geetarmikey":3igilgvq said:
Huge tone! Zakk said in a GWq interview that he used the same setup on No Rest... that Sykes did on 1987 (JCM 800 combo into a 4x12), but the difference in tone is massive. Maybe John used the Colesium alongside that? Anyone have more info?
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He used 2 x 200 watt Mesa Coliseum heads. These amps have a Mark III pre-amp section but use six 6L6 power tubes--giving the amps180 watts each! And he recorded them really really loud. Vintage greenbacks, h30's or the mesa MC90's in the cab.

He also used Gibson Dirty Fingers pickups

As far as the MKIII settings:

Far left Volume on 10 pulled out
Treble 10 pulled out
Bass 0-2 pushed in
mid 0-2 pushed in
master volume 1 pulled for deep
lead drive 10 pulled out
lead master 5-10
 
geetarmikey":2ht4klrg said:
Huge tone! Zakk said in a GWq interview that he used the same setup on No Rest... that Sykes did on 1987 (JCM 800 combo into a 4x12), but the difference in tone is massive. Maybe John used the Colesium alongside that? Anyone have more info?
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No JCM combo. He used the same set-up he used for Whitesnake 87: Two Boogie Mark III (no stripe) Coliseum heads slaved together and then double tracked for rhythms. There was a slight bit of chorusing from a Lexcion PCM41. He ran them into 2 stock Boogie Metal Grill Half Back cabs with the stock speakers (C90's on top and EV's on the bottom). John's technique of putting vibrato on chords makes it sound like there is even more chorus going on than there really is.

He can't recall but he says he may have done some parts here and there with his Jose modded Marshall. He also used a Roland JC120 for some clean stuff. He did record very loud. At the time, it was the only time Little Mountain Studio had noise complaints from neighbors.
 
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