bhuard75
Techdeath’s Resident Asshole Student
They sound good. I know shit about drums. Is their product line a good place to start with learning and whipping up drum parts?
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spguitar
Well-known member
P5 and OKW Aggressive Rock here. I saw that Bring Me The Horizon uses Invasion. That's my next purchase.
Once you get a good template setup it's a breeze. There are lots of guides online for each DAW.
Once you get a good template setup it's a breeze. There are lots of guides online for each DAW.
TheGreatGreen
Well-known member
I didn’t know a thing about virtual drums before I picked up a couple of GGD kits.
I’d say they’re about as well suited to a total beginner as any decent drum software could be.
I’d say they’re about as well suited to a total beginner as any decent drum software could be.
Catthan
Active member
i’ve used them once per the recommendation of a pro mixer/ producer and they do sound good and Nolly gets them to sound immense in his demos.
However After some trial and experimentation anything needing Kontakt is a no from me
However After some trial and experimentation anything needing Kontakt is a no from me
Kapo_Polenton
Well-known member
None of that stuff sounds natural. I went back to my acoustic kit. But if you don't have that luxury, go for the least processed sounding drums you can find and process them yourself. People want things fast but they end up with a novice sounding recording but huge pro sounding drum kits. It sounds terrible. These guys have gone out of business and the interface sucks but the samples sound realistic and I always appreciated that. You can still buy their products and the last one they did " studio drums" has good real sounding samples.
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Majesty
Member
I think,Adam Nolly was used it
JerEvil
Well-known member
I can’t. I just fucking hate Kontakt. I have a few kits but can’t be arsed to them not being standalone.
DanTravis62
Moderator
I honestly prefer freeware stuff like metrodrummer.
Most of the stuff like GGD i don't like because I prefer to program my own midi.
Most of the stuff like GGD i don't like because I prefer to program my own midi.
JerEvil
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Well you can program your own midi with any of them, but yeah free is always good. The ML Drums free kit/software is pretty damn good.
DanTravis62
Moderator
I don't mean "using their pre-recorded beats" I mean actually programming a midi file and then using the program to convert it
and a bunch of them, in fact, do NOT allow you to do this
JerEvil
Well-known member
I really want to say “oh… Gotcha” but I don’t think I get what you’re saying.
DanTravis62
Moderator
I mean editing the midi in another program, saving it as a .mid file, and then dragging and dropping (or adding) the file to a track, and having the program use THAT instead of programming it using their proprietary software/crap - which in many cases is limited, dumb, or doesn't behave like an actual drummer would
I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, its just something a crapload of these programs don't support
JerEvil
Well-known member
Ah ok.
I mean I always program my midi in a midi track in my daw by hand or lately a 16 pad controller. I manually program all the humanization and velocities as well. Then load the drum software as a plugin insert on the track.
Once I line it I bounce each drum in place as an individual track for mixing.
I mean I always program my midi in a midi track in my daw by hand or lately a 16 pad controller. I manually program all the humanization and velocities as well. Then load the drum software as a plugin insert on the track.
Once I line it I bounce each drum in place as an individual track for mixing.
DanTravis62
Moderator
That makes sense
That's kind of the reason I do it the way I do it, as well - I use the same midi file in every drum track, and simply mute everything except the drum I want to process
It's funny how everyone has their own solutions to do these things
Mahlakuorrutus
Banned
Active member
Tried them once and even "raw" they sounded super processed already.
Superior Drummer 3's stock library is still the best there is for me at least.
Superior Drummer 3's stock library is still the best there is for me at least.
Catthan
Active member
SD3 for me too although it is to get them too good for an amateur mix and therefore sounding off-ish..
@JerEvil i’also just gotten a 16 pad controller. do you find it easier that way? only used it for some odd rhythm parts that were easier to play than program and about to give it a go playing a few bars but i think realtime quantizing during recording is a no-brainer otherwise i’ll throw the controller and other things out the window..
how come programme in a midi channel and not the drum program editor? is there a benefit?
@JerEvil i’also just gotten a 16 pad controller. do you find it easier that way? only used it for some odd rhythm parts that were easier to play than program and about to give it a go playing a few bars but i think realtime quantizing during recording is a no-brainer otherwise i’ll throw the controller and other things out the window..
how come programme in a midi channel and not the drum program editor? is there a benefit?
Devin
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I have the One Kit Wonder thing
Sounds very good to me
Sounds very good to me
MatrixClaw
Well-known member
I use the OKW Architects a lot. I own SSD, Superior and Addictive Drums. GGD is my favorite, especially if I don't want to deal with mixing much. Probably going to pick up one of their more raw kits next.
GGD definitely does this. I've only ever used a drum plugin with the manual MIDI roll. The only one I've ever used that doesn't do this is the drummer in Garage Band. The MIDI map on GGD is just different than ToonTrack, which is usually the standard.
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DanTravis62
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What I'm saying is I DONT WANT TO USE THE GGD MIDI MAP