Why not do a raffle for the Hurricane relief?

[japetus]

Sure thing I could always donate nothing at all.... I'm sure if I asked anyone there they'd say they are grateful for the 2k. Opinions of members over the survivors I guess.....

You should ask each and every member if they are greatful for your donation.

 

[VonBonfire]

Stevie, you know where this is headed right?

 

[SteveGlitch]

Stevie, you know where this is headed right?

Probably a ban for no reason. I mean, look at how this looks though, I suggested that the forum could do a forum fund raiser and just because I stated that I am not comfortable with it, now I'm being called a troll and other shit. It's an entertaining response but just confirms I made the right choice not to do one. Maybe my original reply wasn't the best wording but I still don't think it called for the responses ?

That said I probably would have donated here if someone would have started fund raiser. I just didn't want to organize it.

 

[VonBonfire]

Probably a ban for no reason. I mean, look at how this looks though, I suggested that the forum could do a forum fund raiser and just because I stated that I am not comfortable with it, now I'm being called a troll and other shit. It's an entertaining response but just confirms I made the right choice not to do one.

2 Corinthians 9:6-7

"The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."

 

[TheGreatGreen]

Probably a ban for no reason. I mean, look at how this looks though, I suggested that the forum could do a forum fund raiser and just because I stated that I am not comfortable with it, now I'm being called a troll and other shit. It's an entertaining response but just confirms I made the right choice not to do one. Maybe my original reply wasn't the best wording but I still don't think it called for the responses ?

That said I probably would have donated here if someone would have started fund raiser. I just didn't want to organize it.

Funny, when I was a kid and my little brother growing up would flick my ear and I’d push him over in response, he’d also often yell to mom and dad that I pushed him “for no reason.”

If you got banned it wouldn’t “look” like anything other than a child being put in time out for trolling.

Also, that $2k isn’t going to do much to resolve the damage from those 173 tornados and 3 hurricanes. I thought you’d want to help since you’re so vocal about helping.

 

[SteveGlitch]

Funny, when my little brother growing up would flick my ear and I’d push him over in response, he’d also often yell to mom and dad that I pushed him “for no reason.”

If you got banned it wouldn’t “look” like anything other than a child being put it time out.

Also, that $2k isn’t going to do much to resolve the damage from those 173 tornados and 3 hurricanes. I thought you’d want to help since you’re so vocal about helping.

This isn't a "boy cried wolf" situation and I've done nothing for a ban.

That's the thing, I know 2k isn't much, never claimed it was lol It's super weird that someone here is complaining about me donating and judging how much I am giving. And it's not that I'm vocal about giving, just pointing out that I'm going a different route, not sure why it matters so much to anyone on a forum with people I've never met.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

This isn't a "boy cried wolf" situation and I've done nothing for a ban.

That's the thing, I know 2k isn't much, never claimed it was lol It's super weird that someone here is complaining about me donating and judging how much I am giving. And it's not that I'm vocal about giving, just pointing out that I'm going a different route, not sure why it matters so much to anyone on a forum with people I've never met.

Ah, this is the part where the troll throws his hands in the air and says “waaah what’s wrong, I have no idea why everybody is mad at me! All I did was march into the forum and tell everyone they should feel bad about not going far enough out of their way, on their own time, on a guitar forum, to do more charity work. I’M the innocent victim here.”

I’m annoyed at you because that’s EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes people actually involved in real charity say “fuck this it’s not worth the hassle, I don’t feel like putting up with the negativity” and stop doing it.

You know exactly what you’re doing and now you’re crying ignorance when it’s being called out because of how obvious it is and being told to stop.

 

[VonBonfire]

That's the thing, I know 2k isn't much, never claimed it was lol It's super weird that someone here is complaining about me donating and judging how much I am giving.

2k is a ton of money in my world. My 2k dental bill has set me back probably until next April since I will have to pay property taxes between now and then. I'm going to get penalized for being late. When you poor, you pay more.

 

[SteveGlitch]

Ah, this is the part where the troll throws his hands in the air and says “what’s wrong, I have no idea why everybody is mad at me! All I did was march into the forum and tell everyone they should feel bad about not going far enough out of their way, on their own time, on a guitar forum, to do more charity work.”

I’m annoyed at you because that’s EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes people actually involved in real charity say “fuck this it’s not worth the hassle” and stop doing it.

I just find it all to be a bit weird I guess. In one breath you say earlier that my donation was disappointing and implied it was worthless and now you're saying you're pissed because you think I'll back out? So, which is it? If my donation is so repulsive, you wouldn't realistically even care if I backed out.... and no just because I word it like that. Doesn't mean I'm backing out. I don't think there's much logic in saying just because someone won't start a fundraiser that they won't donate. Never heard of that before.

 

[Monkey Man]

2k is a shit-tonne to give to charity in one hit man.

If you give that much on Sunday, good on you; it'll translate into a lot of relief aid I reckon.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

I just find it all to be a bit weird I guess. In one breath you say earlier that my donation was disappointing and implied it was worthless and now you're saying you're pissed because you think I'll back out? So, which is it? If my donation is so repulsive, you wouldn't realistically even care if I backed out.... and no just because I word it like that. Doesn't mean I'm backing out. I don't think there's much logic in saying just because someone won't start a fundraiser that they won't donate. Never heard of that before.

I don't care about your donation. I just used the exact argument you made against you to show you how obnoxious it is.

Nobody owes charity to anyone, and for you to come in here and try to scold and guilt the forum into organizing some additional charity and donating to it, WHILE IN THE SAME BREATH preemptively declaring that you yourself won't be participating, is literally the definition of hypocrisy, and I'm saying that EITHER you're completely aware of this fact and are trolling, or you are unaware of what you're doing, which would mean you don't have the capacity to see it.

Either way, it means your criticism shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone.

 

[SteveGlitch]

Gotta say great troll comment here....

I don't care about your donation. I just used the exact argument you made against you to show you how obnoxious it is.

Putting words into my mouth and twisting things isn't something I do or have done. This is on you.

Nobody owes charity to anyone, and for you to come in and both demand the forum does something in the form of organizing some additional charity and donating to it,

Wtf are you talking about? I never made any demand nor implied it, the question "Why not do a raffle for the hurricane?" isn't a demand, no matter how you try to spin it. Perhaps you need to brush up on the comprehension skills.

WHILE IN THE SAME BREATH declaring that you yourself won't be donating, is literally the definition of hypocrisy, and I'm saying that EITHER you're completely aware of this fact and are trolling, or you are unaware of what you're doing, meaning you don't have the capacity to see it.

Lol I never said I won't be donating at all, I said I wouldn't donate on the forum. The giveaway/raffles is something this forum tends to brag about (even though just about every small forum does things like this ?). No I'm fully aware that you and some others may not like how I wrote it but that doesn't mean how I wrote it is wrong in any way. Someone asked me why I don't organize it and I was at least honest, again, it's because I'm not comfortable with it. So no clue why you'd pretend that I stated that I'm not because "I don't think it's worth the trouble".

Either way, it means your criticism of the forum should not be taken seriously by anyone.

Whatever you say ? I honestly don't givea fuck about about opinion. You're pissed if I give or pissed if I don't. I don't have time for bitch games. And I bet you or anyone else wouldn't have the balls to tell any survivor that my donation means little or nothing, let alone explain to them how you wasted this much energy rather than doing something yourself. Troll on.

2k is a shit-tonne to give to charity in one hit man.

If you give that much on Sunday, good on you; it'll translate into a lot of relief aid I reckon.

It's nice to see a genuine, non-troll comment. Thanks for that, also, I'm not sure if there's a matching program at the church. Sometimes we do a team up with an organization that matches up to a certain dollar amount.

We send out alot of missionaries at my church as well so I'm always giving in some capacity!

 

[TheGreatGreen]

We're breaking posts up into parts and replying to them huh. Ok I can do that too.

Gotta say great troll comment here....

Putting words into my mouth and twisting things isn't something I do or have done. This is on you.

Wtf are you talking about? I never made any demand nor implied it, the question "Why not do a raffle for the hurricane?" isn't a demand, no matter how you try to spin it. Perhaps you need to brush up on the comprehension skills.

You said "It's time to take responsibility...." which is an attempt to guilt the forum into starting up some charity in which you say you won't be participating. Call it "demand" or "guilt tripping" it's effectively the same thing. You're trying to weasel your way around words here.

Lol I never said I won't be donating at all, I said I wouldn't donate on the forum. The giveaway/raffles is something this forum tends to brag about (even though just about every small forum does things like this ?). No I'm fully aware that you and some others may not like how I wrote it but that doesn't mean how I wrote it is wrong in any way. Someone asked me why I don't organize it and I was at least honest, again, it's because I'm not comfortable with it. So no clue why you'd pretend that I stated that I'm not because "I don't think it's worth the trouble".

Your donation to some other organization is irrelevant to this discussion. You only brought it up as a way to deflect what you were actually doing when I called you out for your hypocrisy in your attempt to guilt this place into organizing some charity raffle while also declaring your own refusal to lift a finger towards that goal.

Whatever you say ? I honestly don't give a fuck about about opinion. You're pissed if I give or pissed if I don't. I don't have time for bitch games. And I bet you or anyone else wouldn't have the balls to tell any survivor that my donation means little or nothing, let alone explain to them how you wasted this much energy rather than doing something yourself. Troll on.

I don't care if you give anything to any charity. It does not matter to me. At all.

What matters is that you're trying to guilt others into organizing some charity on this site (you said "It's time to take responsibility...." to us, remember?) while also saying that oh by the way you're not going to participate due to some weightless BS reason like "oh you people don't like me and think I'm a troll so, uh, you people haven't EARNED the right for me to donate to any charities here, but that won't stop me from bringing it up, dumping the idea on the floor for all you to see, then peacing out."

Also for somebody who "doesn't have time for bitch games" you seem to have the time to come into this forum and start a new thread complaining about how it's time for all of US to take responsibility for not doing enough, as if you know the first thing about what any of us are doing about it already. What's that about?


Alright I've said what I meant. No use beating a dead horse any further.

 

[Monkey Man]

The giveaway/raffles is something this forum tends to brag about (even though just about every small forum does things like this ?).

You've alluded to this a few times but I beg to differ mate.

Appreciative and positive comments in actual donation threads don't count; if there's any place to express what a great idea such things are, it's in one of them.

For your statement to be true there'd need to be a plethora of unsolicited declarations to that effect... outside of charity threads. I don't see that.

 

[311splawndude]

"...
Trust and respect has to be earned for me to give it, that's pretty fair. I'm not a long time member anyway and I don't seek to get that involved here as I don't have anything to prove lmao"

...
"I just figured the site's long time members seem to pride themselves on raffles so it's strange that one for this isn't happening."

Yeah. Real strange alright.

 

[Beyond Black]

This isn't a "boy cried wolf" situation and I've done nothing for a ban.

That's the thing, I know 2k isn't much, never claimed it was lol It's super weird that someone here is complaining about me donating and judging how much I am giving. And it's not that I'm vocal about giving, just pointing out that I'm going a different route, not sure why it matters so much to anyone on a forum with people I've never met.

Not vocal about giving.
Announces he’s donating a couple grand to his church when nobody asked…

 

[NowYou'rePlayingWithPower]

"Daddy didn't give attention..."

 

[JackBootedThug]

Ahhh so fundraisers for members and not stuff disasters, I didn't know those were the rules. My bad.

Samaritans purse is an actual organization helping out right now. I saw a video with a couple local sheriffs who were really bragging about the job they were doing. Not sure if they are run by ex-military or what but they seem to be doing a great job helping people out.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

"Daddy didn't give attention..."

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Dammit all, now I have Eddie Vedder's voice stuck in my head. Thank's for that.

 

[SteveGlitch]

"Daddy didn't give attention..."

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Guess them post-sentencing tears are never coming? Wahhhhh

Not vocal about giving.
Announces he’s donating a couple grand to his church when nobody asked…

But I was accused of not donating comments. That's why I stated that I was actually giving. read the comnents. You can't chastise me for correcting someone who's projecting based off their assumptions.

We're breaking posts up into parts and replying to them huh. Ok I can do that too.




You said "It's time to take responsibility...." which is an attempt to guilt the forum into starting up some charity in which you say you won't be participating. Call it "demand" or "guilt tripping" it's effectively the same thing. You're trying to weasel your way around words here.



Your donation to some other organization is irrelevant to this discussion. You only brought it up as a way to deflect what you were actually doing when I called you out for your hypocrisy in your attempt to guilt this place into organizing some charity raffle while also declaring your own refusal to lift a finger towards that goal.



I don't care if you give anything to any charity. It does not matter to me. At all.

What matters is that you're trying to guilt others into organizing some charity on this site (you said "It's time to take responsibility...." to us, remember?) while also saying that oh by the way you're not going to participate due to some weightless BS reason like "oh you people don't like me and think I'm a troll so, uh, you people haven't EARNED the right for me to donate to any charities here, but that won't stop me from bringing it up, dumping the idea on the floor for all you to see, then peacing out."

Also for somebody who "doesn't have time for bitch games" you seem to have the time to come into this forum and start a new thread complaining about how it's time for all of US to take responsibility for not doing enough, as if you know the first thing about what any of us are doing about it already. What's that about?


Alright I've said what I meant. No use beating a dead horse any further.

Never tried to guilt anyone into doing anything. It was just a suggestion, an idea more than anything.

Responsibility but not obligation. People are fighting to not give to the hurricane just because I made a thread about a hurricane funding. It's a bit steep but not too far off from the forums normal behavior so I was not surprised.