Will the COD get me in to Petrucci-land...?

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Well I've been reading alot all over the net about the COD and some claims that it will nail Petruccis tone and some say no way, Jose!

I'm definately not looking for a perfect Petrucci cloned sound, but it would be nice if I could get just a hint of that MkIIC+ lead sound that I love when listening to DT. I'm planing to build a Mesa five band Eq clone pedal to use solely with the COD module once I get one.

Since I'm an old Mesa freak it sure would be a nice combo with the Erect and the COD if it would get me close enough to the Mk lead tone.

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The circuit is a Dumble and Mark IIC pre amp design. It's then comes down to your ears.
 
So basically it should be capable of giving me a sound that's in the same vibe as Petrucci's lead tone then...

That will sure make me a happy camper! :rock:
 
MkIV":3s224huc said:
So basically it should be capable of giving me a sound that's in the same vibe as Petrucci's lead tone then...

That will sure make me a happy camper! :rock:
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I think the tone is there it's just in some players view a bit short on gain. We can not make it have more gain as it causes oscillation when we try.
 
As long as the "tone" is there I'm sure the gain issue won't be that big a deal for me.

I actually watched a DT concert on DVD last night and was a bit surprised that John used a lot less gain on some of his lead tones than I expected.

Thanks for the input, Jeff!
 
OK, I'm curious. I can see what you mean by the lead tone being close and not rhythm, but how gainy can this thing get?

I know a question like this is very subjective, but I owned a great C+ and they are not really super high gain. Is the COD like the IIC Gain 1&2 on say, 5? 7?

Jeff, did Egnater use any IICs for reference? I would be more interested to see if the COD can capture the eccentricities of the IIC/Dumble thing, like the buttery smooth attack on lead channel. IMO, not even Mesa could recreate it with the Mark IV or the Triaxis (or any other amp). Never played a Dumble, by the way(and don't really care to after hanging at TGP for like, a day :) )
 
MkIV":3qeedwvx said:
As long as the "tone" is there I'm sure the gain issue won't be that big a deal for me.

I actually watched a DT concert on DVD last night and was a bit surprised that John used a lot less gain on some of his lead tones than I expected.
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I'll make a comment here, as I am a big fan of Petrucci's. One thing to comment on, is that this module doesn't have as much low end as a SL2 or a EG5. It's a mid-rangey module that is a great module.

I've modded the EG3/4 w/ a cap change that really gets me pretty close to that "Petrucci style" lead tone, and closer to that MkIV rhythm tone. Not perfectly nailed, but sounds damn good! I can do some recordings tonight / tomorrow so you can check it out. I'm really digging it.

Eric
 
aeroic":362plxla said:
I can do some recordings tonight / tomorrow so you can check it out. I'm really digging it.

Eric
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That would be great! Looking forward to hear it!
 
COD sounds really sweet and "Fusion-ey" to my ears with a Petrucci-esque axe.

However, IMO, it's not in the high gain class. It doesn't sound like Petrucci to me. :no:

Great module though!! :thumbsup:
 
guitarslinger":2bq2w43d said:
COD sounds really sweet and "Fusion-ey" to my ears with a Petrucci-esque axe.

However, IMO, it's not in the high gain class. It doesn't sound like Petrucci to me. :no:

Great module though!! :thumbsup:
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I agree. It is more Dumble and Santana to me vs being Petrucci. I put it in use for blues, classic rock, fusion, etc. I agree that it's not high gain compared to the SL2, EG5, or EG3/4.

(Hey guitarslinger, we are back to agreeing! ;) )

Eric
 
aeroic":1zwoarm8 said:
I agree. It is more Dumble and Santana to me vs being Petrucci. I put it in use for blues, classic rock, fusion, etc. I agree that it's not high gain compared to the SL2, EG5, or EG3/4.
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So a COD and EG3/4 might be a nice combo for my MOD50... :confused:
 
MkIV":3etyxu3x said:
aeroic":3etyxu3x said:
I agree. It is more Dumble and Santana to me vs being Petrucci. I put it in use for blues, classic rock, fusion, etc. I agree that it's not high gain compared to the SL2, EG5, or EG3/4.
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So a COD and EG3/4 might be a nice combo for my MOD50... :confused:
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I'm using a COD / SL2 in my Mod50 1x12 combo w/ great results. The EG3/4 module instead of the SL2 will be awesome too.

I'd consider using a lower gain tube in the COD to give you a little bit "higher headroom" clean tone on ChA. I currently use a Tungsol 12ax7 in V1, and a Jan Philips 12at7 in V2 with good results. I'm planning on trying a Jan Philips 5751 in V1 also. I didn't like 2-12at7's in the COD though.

Eric
 
EG5 with treble rolled down and a 2290 wth 8-25 mil delay will get you in the ballpark.
 
Superunknown":1skyaksq said:
EG5 with treble rolled down and a 2290 wth 8-25 mil delay will get you in the ballpark.
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EG5 + 2290 = :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
 
MkIV":3gaxj99f said:
aeroic":3gaxj99f said:
I can do some recordings tonight / tomorrow so you can check it out. I'm really digging it.

Eric
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That would be great! Looking forward to hear it!
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Have you had a chance to record anything yet, Eric?
 
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