With the 80's rockers being 60's/70's/80's yrs old where is music going ?

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skoora said:
I think with the way they produce music now, especially pop, hip hop and even metal it just doesn’t sound like human beings made it as a pulsing living thing. Sure a human pulled up the sample library and chose and edited it, a human loaded up Steven Slate and built or found a midi file and chose a kit and some human gets to scream badly or mumble ironically into a mic….but it just sounds so mechanical. It doesn’t strike you in your gut amd make you feel anything. Sure you might bob your head a little as an almost, involuntary reflex but it’s not doing anything for your brain or soul.
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i agree in general but there are a lot of guys these days that strive for the "human" thing and will use real drummers and analog gear, Daringer is my new favorite dude for that, his drums always sound amazing. i love watching guys make beats


 
This was my favorite new band. Their first 3 CDs rocked. Unfortunately they recently disbanded. These guys are from Finland. Plenty of good stuff still trickling out of Sweden , Norway and Finland these days.





 
texasslinger said:
Right, and digital cannot reproduce haunting mids and tube fairy dust either.
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Seriously... That's what a Full Sail sound engineer told me. I laughed at first, but once he began to explain the science, it made sense. Under the correct chemical influence, you can actually hear the digitization process. It sounds similar to singing into a fan. It's crazy!
 
LP Freak said:
Unfortunately there are no new guitar hero’s that are influencing the new generation
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Said my dad about Chet Atkins when I introduced him to Jimmy Page.
Plenty of new heroes.
Whether you dig this guy or not doesn't matter. He's in one of the top
new young bands going at the moment. Endorsement deals and clinic invites
up the wazoo and now his own Neural plug-in.

Guitar Hero 2020's style.

 
Donnie B. said:
Said my dad about Chet Atkins when I introduced him to Jimmy Page.
Plenty of new heroes.
Whether you dig this guy or not doesn't matter. He's in one of the top
new young bands going at the moment. Endorsement deals and clinic invites
up the wazoo and now his own Neural plug-in.

Guitar Hero 2020's style.

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My point is you’ll never hear of this kid 10 years from now like every other YouTube sensation of the day
 
I been teaching guitar for 20 years and last 5 is the saddest shit ever . Kids have no new bands to talk about and only know a rock song if their parents showed them one . Like I’m seeing the death of rock on a daily basis . Going the way of jazz unless someone new comes out inspiring. I ask them what guitar they like they have heard in songs and they barely know any . It’s very depressing when you love rock music like I do or we all do
 
Techdeth said:
I been teaching guitar for 20 years and last 5 is the saddest shit ever . Kids have no new bands to talk about and only know a rock song if their parents showed them one . Like I’m seeing the death of rock on a daily basis . Going the way of jazz unless someone new comes out inspiring. I ask them what guitar they like they have heard in songs and they barely know any . It’s very depressing when you love rock music like I do or we all do
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Wife and I went to a wedding two weeks ago. Large wedding, expensive country club, When the music started it was all rap, hip hop…ugh. We left pretty quickly there after.
I guess like all other generations, my time has come and gone.
 
HEMI Cooper said:
The list is too extensive to post. Rock/metal prior to 1984 is where my musical interest resides. There were a handful of great bands afterwards, but 1984 is when the downward slide began. By 1989, you couldn't hear a pop song that didn't invoke the imagery of some uber-ghay MTV video production. The only rock/metal bands that I would have the desire to see these days... MSG and Iron Maiden. I'd rather listen to 70's disco music vs what's been passed as rock and metal over the last three decades. The scorn that disco music received was (IMO) undeserved. Yeah, much of it was crap, but much of it wasn't. From 1922 to 1984 = 62 years of incredible compositions to pull from.

I may be full of shit here. You be the judge...
IMO, great rock/metal guitar tones took a nose-dive with the implementation of the MV and effects loop. The most iconic guitar tones ever recorded (IMO) were played through non MV amplifiers. Marshall, VOX and Fender tweeds, mainly. I'll take a great VOX and/or Marshall plexi (with appropriate boost pedals) over MV. There are several builders who have implemented the MV circuit tastefully. Boogie and Wizard come to mind. Marshall JCM800 (including Silver Jubilee) are great MV amplifiers; as are Fender Pro-Sonic and Soldano HR series amplifiers. The SLO100 has a great MV, as long as you replace V2 with a quality black-plate 5751 tube.
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I think what happened was that gear became more accessible for people to learn on. So you got more guitarists and more bands and therefore a bigger pool to find the good in. There are quite a few bands I like, but they are such a small percentage of what is out there. I just had to wade through lots of stuff to find what I liked.

Here is some Buckethead for you.

 
Anyone who thinks the music industry is in a good place right now is one of those types who can make YouTube videos shilling products.

If you actually make real music, and take making music seriously, it's the literal dark ages.

If you can write bullshit by numbers, can vaguely mix a track and are good at video editing? The music world is your oyster.
 
I mean, we’re going 4 decades away from that time period. I remember having this same argument with my dad about the music he listened to in the 50’s around 1992. Lol. Music always progresses regardless of what decade or genre your own personal heyday was in. Those that aren’t overridden with arthritis and are still “attempting” to tour are billed as nostalgia acts and make their money off of what they released then. I’m sure when Motley goes back out their set isn’t gonna be overloaded with Generation Swine and Saints of Los Angeles material. The 80s was my decade for music, but I guess I just always knew it would only last for a season.
 
Artists from the 80's that I still follow, like Bob Mould, Dionosaur Jr, The Pixies, don't act like nostalgia acts at all. They just keep making albums and touring, playing lots of their new material.
 
BatmansRigTalk said:
I think what happened was that gear became more accessible for people to learn on. So you got more guitarists and more bands and therefore a bigger pool to find the good in. There are quite a few bands I like, but they are such a small percentage of what is out there. I just had to wade through lots of stuff to find what I liked.

Here is some Buckethead for you.

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Us old-timers had to learn by ear, as there were no magazines with tabs to tell you where to place your fingers. By doing so, we were forced to develop our ear. Comes-in handy, that's for sure. I still prefer to figure-out songs by ear vs referencing tablature. It's more fun, IMO.
 
Donnie B. said:
Said my dad about Chet Atkins when I introduced him to Jimmy Page.
Plenty of new heroes.
Whether you dig this guy or not doesn't matter. He's in one of the top
new young bands going at the moment. Endorsement deals and clinic invites
up the wazoo and now his own Neural plug-in.

Guitar Hero 2020's style.

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Sounds like bird shit.
 
HEMI Cooper said:
Sounds like bird shit.
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This is exactly why whoever that retard is, he will be shilling Strymons in no time.

Doesnt matter how terrible the music he makes is, he has technical ability and looks marketable.

he's like Hook from Team Taz, only doing instagram neo-soul by numbers.


Edit: Donnie, hes doing a jingle. Not a fucking song, by a fucking band. That's why that shit isn't cool or impressive, no matter his "technical skill"
 
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