Why do DIEZEL amplifier not come with footswitch??

[stratjacket]

I bought a new Hagen about 6 months ago and it came with a power cord and a manual, small manual but explained the midi setup easy enough. I use a cheap midi footswitch. Would be cool if it came with a footswitch, but not a big deal for me either way.

 

[stephen sawall]

No inclusion of a petal ?

 

[baron55]

It's a way to save money. I have a drawer fully of amp footswitches that have never been out of the protective plastic, Uber Ultra, XTC, 5150 III, JP2C etc.

Many guitarists that buy more expensive amps switch them via MIDI and pedalboard switching systems.

But at the endo of the day, amp manufacturers that don't come with footswitches don't seem to have any problems selling them.

 

[stephen sawall]

A lot of people already have a foot pedal or other way to control the amp and don't need a pedal. The real question is why pay for a pedal if you don't want or need one ?

 

[MadAsAHatter]

To those that have mentioned the amp being priced higher if a footswitch was included... I would argue that shouldn't a basic footswitch for channel switching that amounts to $10 worth of parts be included free of charge as a curtesy to the customer?

 

[Kordoba]

Amp need micro-switch and mini-manual.

 

[stephen sawall]

To those that have mentioned the amp being priced higher if a footswitch was included... I would argue that shouldn't a basic footswitch for channel switching that amounts to $10 worth of parts be included free of charge as a curtesy to the customer?

If you look at most of the multi channel amps the pedals are in the $150-$300 range. It's a lot more than ten dollars in parts.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

If you look at most of the multi channel amps the pedals are in the $150-$300 range. It's a lot more than ten dollars in parts.

I'm wasn't talking anything fancy. Just a simple 2 button footswitch; like those generic ones that you can buy $20 retail, for basic channel switching to get you started. That's not too much of an ask as a curtesy after spending thousands on an amp.

 

[stephen sawall]

I'm wasn't talking anything fancy. Just a simple 2 button footswitch; like those generic ones that you can buy $20 retail, for basic channel switching to get you started. That's not too much of an ask as a curtesy after spending thousands on an amp.

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I already have about ten of those. I really don't need a other one. It wouldn't work with any of the Diezel amps if I remember correctly.

 

[itsme]

It's BS. Wanna charge me 3-4K for your amp, provide a footswitch so I can access the channels and features. Pissed me off when I bought a Herbert when they came out

 

[harddriver]

It's BS. Wanna charge me 3-4K for your amp, provide a footswitch so I can access the channels and features. Pissed me off when I bought a Herbert when they came out

They should come with the manual footswitches period, if you want to switch MIDI then then is up to the owner to change out the regular footswitch.

An expensive boutique multi channel amp without a footswitch is like selling a BMW with no steering wheel and no transmission shifter.

 

[mnemonic]

A lot of people already have a foot pedal or other way to control the amp and don't need a pedal. The real question is why pay for a pedal if you don't want or need one ?

This is how I feel about amps with built in load boxes

 

[Kōbra]

I already have about ten of those. I really don't need a other one. It wouldn't work with any of the Diezel amps if I remember correctly.

Fck you doing with 10 loose footswitches?

And make no sense.... not all amp work same.

Assuming everyone has a footswitch that control a diezel herbert is just ..... why would you assume this? Weird shit.

"Oh it's have 6 phone chargers, I don't need another one"

Then new phone come, pay more, different charge port. Where my charger for THIS phone?

Exactly.

 

[Kōbra]

This is how I feel about amps with built in load boxes

Just because you have, doesn't mean everyone else have. Stop with idiocy logic.

 

[Kōbra]

It's BS. Wanna charge me 3-4K for your amp, provide a footswitch so I can access the channels and features. Pissed me off when I bought a Herbert when they came out

Absolute. Truth.

It selfish capitalism.
Take advantage of customer.

They should come with the manual footswitches period, if you want to switch MIDI then then is up to the owner to change out the regular footswitch.

An expensive boutique multi channel amp without a footswitch is like selling a BMW with no steering wheel and no transmission shifter.

Exactly point. If it has multiple channel, should include way to switch without having touch amp every little bit when explore channels.

The $400 footswitch thing is not more than marketing ploy to force people into even more purchase for company.

Midi is not require for most. But channel switch is. At very least should have ability to hit button and toggle between channel on 3-4-5 grand amp. It no Brainer really. Offer the fancy switch as upgrade if user desire. Very simple concept practiced by MOST respect amp company.


Still amaze people find excuse for this and offend. I think some just like to be argumentative because that what their life consist of for no logic reason.

 

[mnemonic]

Just because you have, doesn't mean everyone else have. Stop with idiocy logic.

Heads don’t come with a complimentary cab either, maybe they should be banned? Combos only?

 

[Kōbra]

Heads don’t come with a complimentary cab either, maybe they should be banned? Combos only?

So your compare a 4x12 to a footswitch?

No logic

You be closer compare 4x12 sold with 3 speaker. Or with no jack. Load box have nothing to do with amp function.... irrelevant correlation.


You reach hard, make no sense.
You sound like liberal logic.


All high end amplifier should include footswitch. Have nothing to do with cabinet. Sorry

 

[mnemonic]

So your compare a 4x12 to a footswitch?

No logic

You be closer compare 4x12 sold with 3 speaker. Or with no jack. Load box have nothing to do with amp function.... irrelevant correlation.


You reach hard, make no sense.
You sound like liberal logic.


All high end amplifier should include footswitch. Have nothing to do with cabinet. Sorry

Perhaps you confuse foot switch with load box

 

[skoora]

All I know is, even if this whine-fest goes on for 20 pages, Diezel and Engl are still not going to supply the footswitch as part of the amp purchase. So either buy a used one to save money and get a new footswitch or try another brand that satisfies.

 

[Kōbra]

Perhaps you confuse foot switch with load box

Peter Diezel.... datchū ??

All I know is, even if this whine-fest goes on for 20 pages, Diezel and Engl are still not going to supply the footswitch as part of the amp purchase. So either buy a used one to save money and get a new footswitch or try another brand that satisfies.

Leo Diezel... datchū ??