mentoneman
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all i know the IIC+ sure better be special with something like this available now now:Yupz, that's what I said 20 posts ago. Especially if you lower the internal trim pot for CH1.
SQUAREHEAD
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Tone Monster
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It does
mentoneman
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Blake can plug into a can of vienna sausage and make it sound like planets colliding. He and Zack Wish have awesome high gain clips.
i’ve played two VIIs now—one combo at GC Hollywood and a head/2x12 at our local GC.
with just minimal timei to suss it out t sounds great in person even at lower GC volumes. the thing that kinda freaked me out was the IIB mode. it was like taking a time machine back to my old IIB Coli’s lower gain Stones tones, but the character was right
Speeddemon
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Fer sure.
And it seems even Mesa themselves thought that the Crunch mode is soooo good, they put it available on two different channels!
I didn't really care for the Mark VII mode...sounded a bit too loose for my taste. The 2B mode surprised me for the classic rock stuff.
psychodave
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What happens if the reissue 2C+ sounds BETTER than the original. 
. That would be awesome.
. That would be awesome.
SonVolt
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IMO all the Marks sound like that recorded. It’s in the room where the older ones shine. That may or may not be worth the $3,600!
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Faded Abyss
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Drop F, which is cool to know what it does on that extreme end, even though I wouldn’t drop down that low.
I get the impression that this dude doesn’t really know how to dial in this amp?
thegame
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Looks like that's the least of his worries
Jakem
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Will be interesting to see the classic Metallica, Dream Theater etc settings and demos! 
fedrek
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I would not recommend planting seeds in the heads of people who can't choose an amplifier for playing Metallica. They don't need C++ for this, or better to say not only C++ can play Metallica, all videos with just C+ show that it is possible on C+, IV and even III, all you need is the Mark series amplifier. And it is not a fact that by buying C++ you will get exactly the same sound, because components and tone vary from model to model and it's hard to find the amp that sounds like another. Metallica was overproduced, their tone is a combination of the amp, speakers, equalization on the Aphex EQF-2 and Trident console and the amplifier plays a role there but it's not the only star in the whole show called Metallica. And even with speakers, it’s not that simple; it’s long been proven that if you buy a speaker with the same name, from the same factory, you won’t get exactly the same sound that you heard on the album. Listen to all four speakers in a 4x12 cabinet and each of the four close mic'd speakers will sound like a different speaker.
Don't get hung up on producer notes, don't get hung up on specific titles, use your head and ears and you'll find your perfect Metallica tone. Stick to the Mark series amplifier that is Simul-Class, Triode, was released after III and C+ and has the lead channel and you're ready to go. Of course you can't buy IIB or IIA and expect it to do metal.
Don't get hung up on producer notes, don't get hung up on specific titles, use your head and ears and you'll find your perfect Metallica tone. Stick to the Mark series amplifier that is Simul-Class, Triode, was released after III and C+ and has the lead channel and you're ready to go. Of course you can't buy IIB or IIA and expect it to do metal.
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CrystalSky
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No you’re wrong, I want a 2c++
psychodave
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I’ve had a few. They sound great, but not at the current inflated prices.No you’re wrong, I want a 2c++
Tone Monster
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Yes you do. The ++ and the CCV both have that exploding feeling yet somehow stays together and even tight in the lowend. Skeleton Key is knocking on that door.No you’re wrong, I want a 2c++
Bram576
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I always hear sheas mods and amps remind people of Cameron’s, I won’t ever know having not played a Cameron. But I dig his shit.
CrystalSky
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I know. That is why I am sad. Like really sad. Wish I knew back then. Should have written here the day I learned about this place.
CrystalSky
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You’re not helping my urge, brother, not helping at all
I thought we were friends
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braintheory
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I find Shea’s mods IME are sort of like something in between the Cameron’s and Hermansson’s, but with some of his own thing. I’ve tried close to 20 different Cameron’s and owned 6 in the past (no longer)
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Racerxrated
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I played a JP, and the store also had a Mk IV. Honestly, that Mk IV sounded the closest to any of the 4 C+ I owned, over the JP and far far better than the 2 Mk IIIs I had.
I honestly don't understand the Mk III love but to each their own. The Red and Purple DRGs I had both were very harsh/scratchy in the upper mids/highs. The Mk IV was way better.
The VII sounds really good...but doesn't 'punch' you with the power section like the vintage ones do. According to a Mark guy who's had them all.
I honestly don't understand the Mk III love but to each their own. The Red and Purple DRGs I had both were very harsh/scratchy in the upper mids/highs. The Mk IV was way better.
The VII sounds really good...but doesn't 'punch' you with the power section like the vintage ones do. According to a Mark guy who's had them all.
GJgo
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I thought you were smart till that last part.
Also FWIW, while I do beleive these things matter in the room, things that don't really matter on a close mic recording include Simul vs not, pentode vs triode (after dialing tone knobs to match the dullness of triode), bold vs spongy, tube vs diode, tweed vs full power, etc...