33 Americans dead and ____# taken hostage by the Hamas

[ccn]

OMG , what a dumb motherfucker , Hey anus boy , why do you think the world is in such atrocious shape where anything goes and morality is nowhere to be found ? People have already abandoned religion , that's the problem !!!!!!!!!!

Marxist Democrats Delete God From House Proceedings​

The socialism of the Democrat Party violates at least three of the Ten Commandments. It turns government into God, it legalizes thievery and it elevates covetousness. But the real core of communism is the hatred of God.

The majority party in the House of Representatives has removed God. It has deleted the Almighty from as many Congressional proceedings as possible, including the swearing in of witnesses.

https://newswithviews.com/marxist-democrats-delete-god-from-house-proceedings/

Why does the democratic party disdain God?​

The real agenda of the democrats is the destruction of family government and church government such that the only entity left standing is an all powerful civil government which alone commands worship, obedience and total undivided loyalty.

Think of the implications to our land if their agenda is followed – the destruction of family and church, the exaltation of every form of wickedness and immorality. They scheme to accomplish this by eliminating all sin from society by redefining sin and calling it good, moral and righteous. Look at how closely this agenda aligns with Satan’s strategy. His design is to drag everyone to hell with him.

All he has to do is persuade them to worship some idol other than the one true God, and get them to believe that they are not sinners headed to hell and therefore there was never a need for a redeeming sacrifice for their sins. If Satan can keep them locked in bondage to this belief system until they draw their last breath, he will have them in hell for all eternity.

If you were to make a simple comparison of the major belief systems in the world – all of them have a standard as to what constitutes sin. They also have a system of sacrifice to seek atonement for sin. There is only one religion that doesn’t do this but rather denies the very existence of sin altogether and that belief system is Satanism. It would seem that Satanism is the religion adopted by the Democrat platform.

https://newswithviews.com/why-does-the-democratic-party-disdain-god/

 

[VonBonfire]

There could be so much piece if people would just abandon religion

I guess you didn't read 20th century history. Modernism, post-modernism. The rise of atheism. More dead in secular wars than all the other ones combined. Quit psychologically ripping people from their hope and we'll all be better off.

 

[Monkey Man]

Well, logically it could have been staged, deep-faked, or perpetrated by the Israelis themselves. I haven’t seen these images. To start, link me to them and the analysis suggesting they are what they appear to be.

The footage was shown to many (all?) of the world's leading press outlets.

To a man / woman all the journalists were horrified, said they'd never seen anything like it and asserted that it should never be shown to the public.

 

[Stripped Rights]

Hay anis boi.....

 

[acceptance]

The footage was shown to many (all?) of the world's leading press outlets.

To a man / woman all the journalists were horrified, said they'd never seen anything like it and asserted that it should never be shown to the public.

I don’t buy it.

 

[acceptance]

I guess you didn't read 20th century history. Modernism, post-modernism. The rise of atheism. More dead in secular wars than all the other ones combined. Quit psychologically ripping people from their hope and we'll all be better off.

You make a good point, at least for the modern era. But all these millions of deaths in wars and other state killings (Democide) are arguably the result of the semi religious ideology of statism.

 

[Monkey Man]

I don’t buy it.

Pray tell me then brother:

If you don't believe the mainstream or alternate media, the only recourse you have is to not know of or believe anything about what's going on in the world, no?

If that's the case what's the point in engaging in any discussion about it whatsoever?

 

[acceptance]

Pray tell me then brother:

If you don't believe the mainstream or alternate media, the only recourse you have is to not know of or believe anything about what's going on in the world, no?

If that's the case what's the point in engaging in any discussion about it whatsoever?

I meant I don’t buy the idea that all these outrageous atrocities were committed but only a select group of media outlets are allowed to see the evidence and we’re just supposed to believe whatever they tell us.

 

[acceptance]

Think how much time and energy usually goes into adjudicating a murder for example. We’re talking about crimes here ultimately. I’d like to be confident of guilt before I start convicting.

 

[Monkey Man]

I understand mate.

The "selected" media organisations were the major ones, both left and right-leaning.

Footage such as this isn't fit for public consumption. I saw interviews with respected journalists who'd seen it and I won't even repeat what I heard. They were very-reluctant to divulge even in words what they'd seen. Just the odd tidbit here and there.

To their knowledge it was the worst display of barbarism in history. Ignore that if you like.

 

[acceptance]

To their knowledge it was the worst display of barbarism in history. Ignore that if you like.

I don’t ignore it, I’m just skeptical. Even if I saw the evidence personally, it still wouldn’t necessarily mean it is what it appeared to be. It would take a lot of knowledge and experience to ascertain what truly happened. Ultimately, I think we need an independent, impartial and multinational panel to make these determinations. IMO there’s too much room for manipulation of public opinion to achieve political objectives with such a significant and allegedly atrocious event.

 

[Monkey Man]

I don’t ignore it, I’m just skeptical.

Skepticism is the default intelligent position so I applaud you for that.

It would take a lot of knowledge and experience to ascertain what truly happened.

It takes zero knowledge and experience to determine certain things and many with much are convinced.

Ultimately, I think we need an independent, impartial and multinational panel to make these determinations

You'd be back to square one.

Would you trust an organisation gifted with such power?

Remember, skepticism 101...

 

[VonBonfire]

You make a good point, at least for the modern era. But all these millions of deaths in wars and other state killings (Democide) are arguably the result of the semi religious ideology of statism.

Since when did statism have anything to do with religion? Please explain further.

 

[JackBootedThug]

It’s not the religion, it’s the animals that claim to follow it.

 

[JackBootedThug]

 

[acceptance]

Skepticism is the default intelligent position so I applaud you for that.


It takes zero knowledge and experience to determine certain things and many with much are convinced.


You'd be back to square one.

Would you trust an organisation gifted with such power?

Remember, skepticism 101...

Ideally the tribunal composition would be acceptable to both sides. I agree though that there remains the potential for injustice and abuse. And you're right, some things are easy enough for the layperson to figure out. Perhaps this is one of those things, but I haven't seen it, so I can't say!

 

[acceptance]

Since when did statism have anything to do with religion? Please explain further.

Basically in that people ultimately have faith in the almost supernatural legitimacy and benevolence of the state. There is really no such "Thing" as the state. It is just a made up story that rationalizes the organization of humans and the supposed right of some to rule over others with force. Most of us agree to this fiction so it generally "Works," but clearly, and contrary to the extraordinary hopes and wishes of many, the state is not the salvation of mankind.

“In truth, the belief in "government" is a religion, made up of a set of dogmatic teachings, irrational doctrines which fly in the face of both evidence and logic, and which are methodically memorized and repeated by the faithful. Like other religions, the gospel of "government" describes a superhuman, supernatural entity, above mere mortals, which issues commandments to the peasantry, for whom unquestioning obedience is a moral imperative.” ― Larken Rose, The Most Dangerous Superstition

 

[VonBonfire]

Basically in that people ultimately have faith in the almost supernatural legitimacy and benevolence of the state. There is really no such "Thing" as the state. It is just a made up story that rationalizes the organization of humans and the supposed right of some to rule over others with force. Most of us agree to this fiction so it generally "Works," but clearly, and contrary to the extraordinary hopes and wishes of many, the state is not the salvation of mankind.

Seems like semantics though. Unless you just mean religious fervor like bolsheviks or nazis. I can see your point but most of the conflicts were not religious in nature. In fact many of them were protestants fighting other protestants without religion as a component to the killing. It was all political.

 

[acceptance]

Seems like semantics though. Unless you just mean religious fervor like bolsheviks or nazis. I can see your point but most of the conflicts were not religious in nature.

The state as a religion analogy is not perfect but I see real parallels. Especially with zealous political ideologues as you point out. The spreading of “Democracy” in the Mideast has been likened to the crusades, even if it is mostly a euphemism for empire and conquest of natural resources.

many of them were protestants fighting other protestants without religion as a component to the killing

What were they fighting about? I bet it is nonetheless rooted in statism.

 

[ccn]