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psychodave":2v656icn said:
luxxtone":2v656icn said:
James Lugo":2v656icn said:
I wish I didn't post that, I just logged back on to delete it but Roid got there first. Damn. Anyway, this amp fest was one for the record books and has cured me of ever wanting to do it again. Live and learn. I hope that I didn't fail and show any amps in a bad light, I did my best.

James

Don't worry about it James. There will always be someone who is butt hurt because their amp wasn't the BEST of the whole ampfest. :cry: Every amp had the same time and effort put into it before it was recorded, if they thought the amp sounded bad, then tough shit. What's funny is many amps that some people say sounded bad ended up being other peoples favorites....it's all personal taste! So even to say an amp sounded BAD is just personal taste....not a fact whatsoever. It's so ridiculous to even say it was the way it was recorded, as opposed to just realizing it didn't sound as good as you hoped compared to all the other amazing amps under the same conditions. You rock and I'm glad I was able to be a part of it! :rock:

I respectfull disagree. There were a lot of amps I heard in person that sounded bad during this recording...and some amps I have played in person that sounded like crap yet sounded good on this recording. That leads me to say it is the recording, not the amp. This in now way is a negative to James... it is what it is. I appreciate what James did for all of us.

What you wrote makes no sense Dave. That you've heard amps sound good in person but bad in recordings and vice versa and that's why it's the recording that made whatever amp you think is great not sound so great. If you ever studied science the glaring variable is you weren't there and you don't know the condition of said amp and how it really sounded.

I have a beautiful 5 series BMW, drives like a dream but if you had driven in it last week before I had the fuel injection fixed you would have thought it was a piece of s**t, maybe blamed my driving. Who knows.

I don't know how a CCV sounds that you've heard but you know how the CCV sounded that I heard, listen to the clip. V30, straight cab, PR20/M160, Neve/Pacifica. I played the Aldrich today, it sounds like the clip, which isn't a bad thing the clip is cool. BUT Mark told me 2 of the tubes were bad. There were many issues with the Cameron amps at the shootout none of which had anything to do with me, bad tubes and microphonic tubes, Mark told me himself, so maybe that's why a certain clip doesn't resonate with you but to blindly find fault in the recording is what's wrong with the internet. Someone will read your post and think I'm a hack.

And as Steve_K said, where my Aldrich Marshall???

James

p.s. All this amp he said she said stuff aside, I have mad respect for you and what you're about. Hell I modeled my racks after you, imitation is the highest form of flattery. I like your playing, your spirit and your willingness to help a brother out and I know you just don't want people to think Mark's amps aren't as good as they really are, I totally get that and am with you. So for me I have to sign off on this subject, I have a pregnant wife, 3 sets of clients in from out of town and 14 days to track 20 songs with vocals and make 10k....oh and it's Christmas...

Peace out!

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James-

I got to hear tons of the stuff that you've done recently when I was at the studio. You're production sounded GREAT. You're no hack.

The CCV that was used wasn't sounding it's best, it needed new tubes.The other one is my favorite of three, but it red plated immediately before we started, and Mark didn't want to change the tubes at the time.

I did think that it sounded better in the room than it came out on the recording, but that can be chalked up to a close mic'd amp vs. room sound. They're different. Period.

For the record, those were MY CCV's, and I'm not upset in the least. I thought you did a great job, in a VERY difficult situation.....and no, I'm not selling them :D Still MY favorite amps :rock:
 
Yeah I feel ya on that, my take and why we did it the way we did is for one reason and I'm not saying I'm right I'm just saying this was my call on it. The majority of modern hard rock and metal recording is mostly if not all close micing. Because of the in your faceness of it. So to a certain degree, for me anyway, I'm not always so hung up on how it sounds in the room, at the end of the day when I listen to a record I'm hearing little to no room in most modern recordings. Also the amp may have sounded better in the room because my room sounds great, it was tuned by the best guy in the world George Augsburger. So the room can actually give you an unrealistic point of view of how the amp sounds, everything sound nice in my room, that's how it was built. And honestly if I had used room mics people would be screaming I'm hearing to much room I just want to hear the amp, so I can't fully win either way. Hence the reality of the situation. I made the call, so I have to take the good, the bad and the ugly.
 
Well, if you're taking shit over the CCV thing, I'm sorry to hear it. As I said, they're MY amps, and I'm not upset in the slightest.

I love 'em, and I don't give a shit if anyone else does or not :lol: :LOL:
 
jcj":1itsazlv said:
Well, if you're taking shit over the CCV thing, I'm sorry to hear it. As I said, they're MY amps, and I'm not upset in the slightest.

I love 'em, and I don't give a shit if anyone else does or not :lol: :LOL:

I wasn't talking shit about any amp I was just engaging in a conversation that has been going on here and involves me. For me amps are just tools anyway, I own a hefty fleet myself and no one amp is all things to all situations. Personally I don't get emotional either way, it's a box of metal to me. Anyway, the Cameron amps have been a source of much of the contention with the amp fest and I have taken a lot of heat over their showing, so I guess at the end of the day I need to say what I need to say because it does effect me.
 
psychodave":1ovmiyko said:
James, I meant no disrespect. I just felt a lot of amps didn't sound good...not just the CCV... I didn't like the Aldrich either ;) yet Steve K and a lot of others did). There were also some amps that I don't like that sounded good. I took the two variables and assumed it was the recording process. That doesn't mean that you aren't a great recording engineer. It simply means that I didn't like how it was recorded. Nothing more nothing less. I do really appreciate the fact that you took time and money to do something for all of us guitar players.

+1 :rock:
 
It's all good guys, the bottom line we did our best to show all the amps in their best light. I'd love when things get up and running all the way with Mark to do some fresh clips with his best amps with the best tubes, best cab selection etc...

James
 
James Lugo":2chlfc5p said:
jcj":2chlfc5p said:
Well, if you're taking shit over the CCV thing, I'm sorry to hear it. As I said, they're MY amps, and I'm not upset in the slightest.

I love 'em, and I don't give a shit if anyone else does or not :lol: :LOL:

I wasn't talking shit about any amp I was just engaging in a conversation that has been going on here and involves me. For me amps are just tools anyway, I own a hefty fleet myself and no one amp is all things to all situations. Personally I don't get emotional either way, it's a box of metal to me. Anyway, the Cameron amps have been a source of much of the contention with the amp fest and I have taken a lot of heat over their showing, so I guess at the end of the day I need to say what I need to say because it does effect me.

Read the post you quoted again. I said if you're TAKING shit, not TALKING shit.
 
jcj":77kmyoow said:
James Lugo":77kmyoow said:
jcj":77kmyoow said:
Well, if you're taking shit over the CCV thing, I'm sorry to hear it. As I said, they're MY amps, and I'm not upset in the slightest.

I love 'em, and I don't give a shit if anyone else does or not :lol: :LOL:

I wasn't talking shit about any amp I was just engaging in a conversation that has been going on here and involves me. For me amps are just tools anyway, I own a hefty fleet myself and no one amp is all things to all situations. Personally I don't get emotional either way, it's a box of metal to me. Anyway, the Cameron amps have been a source of much of the contention with the amp fest and I have taken a lot of heat over their showing, so I guess at the end of the day I need to say what I need to say because it does effect me.

Read the post you quoted again. I said if you're TAKING shit, not TALKING shit.

oops... Operator error. Sorry man my bad.
 
No worries, bro! I appreciated the invite, and had a blast. I'd hate for you to think I was piling on :lol: :LOL:
 
jcj":37g4ja6h said:
No worries, bro! I appreciated the invite, and had a blast. I'd hate for you to think I was piling on :lol: :LOL:

It was good hangin with ya. Man when I was a kid a totaled my dad's brand new car drunk and didn't take as much shit as I have this past week...lol But I'm tough I can take it. Don't forget my work gets praised and criticized by mainstream pop media, I can handle rig-talk.
 
James Lugo":3hh4a4zx said:
jcj":3hh4a4zx said:
No worries, bro! I appreciated the invite, and had a blast. I'd hate for you to think I was piling on :lol: :LOL:

It was good hangin with ya. Man when I was a kid a totaled my dad's brand new car drunk and didn't take as much shit as I have this past week...lol But I'm tough I can take it. Don't forget my work gets praised and criticized by mainstream pop media, I can handle rig-talk.
This is a tuff bunch :lol: :LOL:
 
From the amps featured that Ive heard in person (which is quite a few of them) I thought the recordings did them justice. This thing was exactly what I was hoping for when Mark told me about it a few weeks ago, an honest demo of hot ticket amps out there. Thanks for doing such a great job in what looked to be a huge pain in the ass.
 
I don't get all the hoopla, I thought the CCV sounded good and was definitely among the better sounding amps even with the bad tubes or whatever else Mark said was wrong with it. It didn't sound as good as psychodave's clips and a couple others I've heard but it was a million times better than some of the youtube vids of the CCV that have been up for awhile. :confused:
 
James Lugo":1zd6e5nv said:
jcj":1zd6e5nv said:
No worries, bro! I appreciated the invite, and had a blast. I'd hate for you to think I was piling on :lol: :LOL:

It was good hangin with ya. Man when I was a kid a totaled my dad's brand new car drunk and didn't take as much shit as I have this past week...lol But I'm tough I can take it. Don't forget my work gets praised and criticized by mainstream pop media, I can handle rig-talk.

James,

Seriously, I can't believe anyone could be giving you shit after the time, money and effort that went into doing this. I'm sure it was a blast playing all the different stuff, but that was a lot of work. It was a great service to all of us interested in the different amps. But, I get the feeling it probably won't happen again. And, why would you want to!!! FWIW, I thought the CCV was one of the better sounding amps. That and the Freidman stuff. I guess it's just a matter of personal taste.

I'm really sorry that you've taken flack for this. This and the other shoot-outs have been really cool. And, I hope you do more after you rest up.

Thanks again, man.

Schaf
 
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