Are we just, not gonna talk about the Rev F Dual rec Reissue or???

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Why would they have a rev F prototype being created for an amp they produced 1000's of?
Unless it's for different parts being used etc.


Here's a dream recto idea....

Old 2ch appearance and cosmetics.
5 way toggle switch... switches between revisions C, D, E, F & G..... now that would be cool!!
 
saxxamafone said:
Why would they have a rev F prototype being created for an amp they produced 1000's of?
Unless it's for different parts being used etc.


Here's a dream recto idea....

Old 2ch appearance and cosmetics.
5 way toggle switch... switches between revisions C, D, E, F & G..... now that would be cool!!
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Guess it’s an easy money grab as the Rev thing drives prices up. Could have something to do with Gibson being in charge now.
You‘ve seen the reissue thing with Marshall before. Kind of gives me headaches seeing companies that defined the industry starting to rely on their legacy instead of concentrating one creating and defining the standards
 
TheGreatGreen said:
I have no idea how the revisions differed or if that would even be possible, but that's a hell of an idea if it could work.
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They would probably do it just by having different values in capacitors and resistors on a switch or two but it wouldn't address plate voltage changes, filtering changes etc. I don’t know how much the OT changed. I feel It would be like a 6100 or JVM Marshall. Advertise the eras in the one amp but all you’re really getting is slight tone tweaks and different levels of gain that are all too much the same.
 
skoora said:
They would probably do it just by having different values in capacitors and resistors on a switch or two but it wouldn't address plate voltage changes, filtering changes etc. I don’t know how much the OT changed. I feel It would be like a 6100 or JVM Marshall. Advertise the eras in the one amp but all you’re really getting is slight tone tweaks and different levels of gain that are all too much the same.
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Well I mean it's not like Mesa hasn't already done that for the past 20 years with their Mark series amps. :ROFLMAO:
 
Now that Gibson owns Mesa, they'll make this a very desirable reissue (Rev C, D, F, etc) but the run will be limited to 100 amps, each signed by Randall Smith, and each will cost $12,999 :cautious:
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Well I mean it's not like Mesa hasn't already done that for the past 20 years with their Mark series amps. :ROFLMAO:
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I guess even longer, considering the Triaxis. Any tube amp that advertises many era’s in one I never take too seriously. Even the Royalist I just got I know is not really doing a true example of a 45, Black Flag and SL in the one amp with the same transformers and tube rec that’s always in circuit. I just take it for what it is which is tones I really enjoy. The MKV I had, pulled off variety well but I also never felt or really expected to get a 2C+ and IV out of it. But I didn’t get the V to achieve that anyway. I just liked the way it sounded.
 
skoora said:
They would probably do it just by having different values in capacitors and resistors on a switch or two but it wouldn't address plate voltage changes, filtering changes etc. I don’t know how much the OT changed. I feel It would be like a 6100 or JVM Marshall. Advertise the eras in the one amp but all you’re really getting is slight tone tweaks and different levels of gain that are all too much the same.
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Filtering and voltage never really changed, maybe a few volts less on the early ones. RevG runs between 465-470 and all the other revisions I had in the house were aprox. 455-460. The one RevC Racerxtarded talks about is kind of an anomaly.
 
the closest Recto I've heard to the Rev F was a Multi-Watt Triple Rec (less fizz than the Dual)
I had them side by side and had to use modern mode on the MW to get the same feel and balls that the Rev F had.
 
They should release ONE with mini switches to toggle through Rev A through X
 
I owned a Rev F and it was my favorite by far, I've owned a lot of rectifiers. I didn't need a boost to tighten it up. Sounded really great. If the reissue is anything like that I'll be stoked. I currently have a Rev G and it gets the job done with a tube screamer.
 
jsnow90 said:
I owned a Rev F and it was my favorite by far, I've owned a lot of rectifiers. I didn't need a boost to tighten it up. Sounded really great. If the reissue is anything like that I'll be stoked. I currently have a Rev G and it gets the job done with a tube screamer.
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Same. Should have kept that amp. Doh!!! Coulda had a V8.

Were the Mark III trannies not part of what made the Rev F more valuable? Mine was a 1992 model, Serial # 1500. Should have kept. Dammit.
 
LPMojoGL said:
Same. Should have kept that amp. Doh!!! Coulda had a V8.

Were the Mark III trannies not part of what made the Rev F more valuable? Mine was a 1992 model, Serial # 1500. Should have kept. Dammit.
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When I sold mine they could be had for about $1100. I got it for $800 lol
 
LPMojoGL said:
Same. Should have kept that amp. Doh!!! Coulda had a V8.

Were the Mark III trannies not part of what made the Rev F more valuable? Mine was a 1992 model, Serial # 1500. Should have kept. Dammit.
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Some had them. Some didn’t. In true Mesa fashion they used the mark iii transformers until they ran out then switched to the “standard” rectifier set (which was basically in the middle of the F run).
 
The MultiWatt is already a Rev F tonally! ...So what they'll be making with still modern components is a MW Reissue. With less channels. :LOL:

I also never figured out how the MKIII trannies were inferior in the III, but superior in the Pre 500s. I think trannies are one of those things you're never going to hear on a microphone.
 
GJgo said:
The MultiWatt is already a Rev F tonally! ...So what they'll be making with still modern components is a MW Reissue. With less channels. :LOL:

I also never figured out how the MKIII trannies were inferior in the III, but superior in the Pre 500s. I think trannies are one of those things you're never going to hear on a microphone.
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It's not the same tonally, Ive had both.
 
I’ve owned lots of all of them. My point is that no reissue is going to sound like the OG due to modern components. Therefore logically, a reissue F will sound like a MW (which is closer to F in voicing than any other revision).

Note that’s not a bad thing, I think the MW is a modern classic. It’s as good as modern Mesas get. I just don’t think a 2ch reissue will be different/special unless they go full epic Rev C or full tubby Rev G.
 
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