Attenuators

[MARK1970]

You might want to check out the ultimate attenuator (by Weber I think).
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Not by Weber, but designed by my friend Mr Ho, assembled by his kids,

but sold by some middle man, who sadly, pretty much doubles the price.

 

[MARK1970]

Just a heads up. If you have a NMV amp that does not have a line out and you wanted to add effects via a wet/dry slave rig using an attenutor/load box the Leash does NOT have a line out on it like a hotplate or the webers do . Some people bought the Leash not knowing this and they were pissed. There are ways around this of course but I figured Id give you a heads up.[/quo
Great point, I had a THD and sold it as I had no need for it at the time anymore. I was looking into the leash, but I will go back with the THD. Thanks for the warning.

 

[dstroud]

You might want to check out the ultimate attenuator (by Weber I think).
...

Not by Weber, but designed by my friend Mr Ho, assembled by his kids,

but sold by some middle man, who sadly, pretty much doubles the price.

I got one from Ho about 2-3 months ago - I really like this thing. I like the Hot Plate too, but I got the Ho to have 2 master volumes. I got no heat issues or any wierd noises like I read some people had - works like a champ.

 

[degenaro]

Yes...any 8 ohm attenuator.

Yep, except I would not try it on some Marshalls.

Sorry...but I have yet to have any problem running a Marshall with a 8 ohm attenuator and any load from 4 to 16 ohm as long as you set the imepdance to 4 ohm with a 4 ohm load, and 8 ohm with an 8 or 16 ohm load.
Also, since you brought up Ho, the concept of running a 32 ohm load as he does then would not work.

 

[blackba]

I had the same issue, I have amps and cabs ranging from 4-16ohms. I plan to get the weber mass at some point, hopefully in the next couple of months.

I gave up trying to add master volumes to a few of my vintage amps....

 

[blackba]

intersting thread on the gear page. (hopefully the link works)

I am not sure what to get now....

http://thegearpage.net/board/showthread ... t=airbrake

 

[MOAAH]

You might want to check out the ultimate attenuator (by Weber I think).
...

Not by Weber, but designed by my friend Mr Ho, assembled by his kids,

but sold by some middle man, who sadly, pretty much doubles the price.

I got one from Ho about 2-3 months ago - I really like this thing. I like the Hot Plate too, but I got the Ho to have 2 master volumes. I got no heat issues or any wierd noises like I read some people had - works like a champ.

The only thing I don't dig about his attenuator is the price and the enclosure. Hopefully he will polish up the cosmetics and find a less expensive way to market them.

I still prefer a good preamp feeding a small(~2watts, anything less don't have enough balls to move most guitar speakers, IMO) poweramp for overdriven low volume situations.

 

[MOAAH]

Yes...any 8 ohm attenuator.

Yep, except I would not try it on some Marshalls.

Sorry...but I have yet to have any problem running a Marshall with a 8 ohm attenuator and any load from 4 to 16 ohm as long as you set the imepdance to 4 ohm with a 4 ohm load, and 8 ohm with an 8 or 16 ohm load.
Also, since you brought up Ho, the concept of running a 32 ohm load as he does then would not work.

Don't be sorry Ed
I've seen a few Marshalls with blown OP trafos, some were seemingly(could be they were on the way out anyways) caused by using an attenuator.

I know Mr. Ho quite well. He is the #1 tech in Vancouver, and he knows his stuff better than most. At one time I wanted to marry his daughter, then we could have had a Fab-Ho, or two, LOL.

 

[dstroud]

quote]

I got one from Ho about 2-3 months ago - I really like this thing. I like the Hot Plate too, but I got the Ho to have 2 master volumes. I got no heat issues or any wierd noises like I read some people had - works like a champ.[/quote]

The only thing I don't dig about his attenuator is the price and the enclosure. Hopefully he will polish up the cosmetics and find a less expensive way to market them.

I still prefer a good preamp feeding a small(~2watts, anything less don't have enough balls to move most guitar speakers, IMO) poweramp for overdriven low volume situations.[/quote]

I don't actually play that quiet, I just like having a rythm and solo level. It was pricey, and it aint much to look at but I couldn't find anything else to do it with (in just 1 box).

 

[degenaro]

I've seen a few Marshalls with blown OP trafos, some were seemingly(could be they were on the way out anyways) caused by using an attenuator.

I know Mr. Ho quite well. He is the #1 tech in Vancouver, and he knows his stuff better than most. At one time I wanted to marry his daughter, then we could have had a Fab-Ho, or two, LOL.

Yeah, if the attenuator was say an old Scholz or Altair that had parts come off the board when it overheated, or when the OT woulda gonna when you cranked the amp without an attenuator. ut that does not negate the poin that one can run a Marshall with any 8 ohm attenuator with 4/8/16 ohm load as long as the impedance selector is set right.

 

[degenaro]

The only thing I don't dig about his attenuator is the price and the enclosure. Hopefully he will polish up the cosmetics and find a less expensive way to market them.

I still prefer a good preamp feeding a small(~2watts, anything less don't have enough balls to move most guitar speakers, IMO) poweramp for overdriven low volume situations.

I like the concept, heck I do the same with my rack, except I load an 8 ohm amp down with a 8 ohm load and then amplify it with a 90 watt power amp.

 

[MOAAH]

I don't actually play that quiet, I just like having a rythm and solo level. It was pricey, and it aint much to look at but I couldn't find anything else to do it with (in just 1 box).

Agreed, his is the only one that seems to cover so much ground.

PS: Not that I am a great speller(LOL), but I can't help notice how Rhythm seems be the most commonly misspelled word in our industry

 

[dstroud]

I don't actually play that quiet, I just like having a rythm and solo level. It was pricey, and it aint much to look at but I couldn't find anything else to do it with (in just 1 box).

Agreed, his is the only one that seems to cover so much ground.

PS: Not that I am a great speller(LOL), but I can't help notice how Rhythm seems be the most commonly misspelled word in our industry

ha! I got no rhythm, but I goy rythm !

 

[MOAAH]

The only thing I don't dig about his attenuator is the price and the enclosure. Hopefully he will polish up the cosmetics and find a less expensive way to market them.

I still prefer a good preamp feeding a small(~2watts, anything less don't have enough balls to move most guitar speakers, IMO) poweramp for overdriven low volume situations.

I like the concept, heck I do the same with my rack, except I load an 8 ohm amp down with a 8 ohm load and then amplify it with a 90 watt power amp.

Along the same line: My latest rig is running a 2watt poweramp for late night practice. But when I go big I drive the 2watter into a reactive load with a compensated line out into 400watts of American power.
2x100watt Bogen tube poweramp for highs and mids, 2x100watt Altec SS poweramp(very stable for lows, plus they have transformer coupling on the OP stage, warm and round)for lows, RANE electronic crossover.

It's not really portable thou

 

[MOAAH]

I don't actually play that quiet, I just like having a rythm and solo level. It was pricey, and it aint much to look at but I couldn't find anything else to do it with (in just 1 box).

Agreed, his is the only one that seems to cover so much ground.

PS: Not that I am a great speller(LOL), but I can't help notice how Rhythm seems be the most commonly misspelled word in our industry

ha! I got no rhythm, but I goy rythm !

It's all good

 

[MrDan666]

did anyone here ever try that Rocktron Juice Extractor unit from years ago? I dont know if its an attenuator, but i believe its a load box with line outs and stuff for slaving.. i read a bunch of guys in the early 90s used to use them with good results.

 

[dstroud]

did anyone here ever try that Rocktron Juice Extractor unit from years ago? I dont know if its an attenuator, but i believe its a load box with line outs and stuff for slaving.. i read a bunch of guys in the early 90s used to use them with good results.

Greazygeo had a Youtube clip with a Plexi into a JMP power section - I'm pretty sure the Juice Extractor was the go-between. Sounded awesome (of course George playing helps !

 

[jonny toetags]

Just to let you guys know, i am even more confused now

 

[Copperhead]

The only thing I don't dig about his attenuator is the price and the enclosure. Hopefully he will polish up the cosmetics and find a less expensive way to market them.

I still prefer a good preamp feeding a small(~2watts, anything less don't have enough balls to move most guitar speakers, IMO) poweramp for overdriven low volume situations.

I like the concept, heck I do the same with my rack, except I load an 8 ohm amp down with a 8 ohm load and then amplify it with a 90 watt power amp.

This works GREAT! Thanks Again for your help, Ed!!!!!!

 

[dstroud]

Just to let you guys know, i am even more confused now

If Ed says get the 8 ohm and it will be safe for all 3 ohmages, then I'd say you're good to go on the Hot Plate. There are just lots of options on attenuators, depending on what you need it to do.