Best dirt pedal for a Plexi...?

[AmpliFIRE]

Bad Monkey's or Direct Drives just won't have enough. We tried a BB Preamp on said plexi and that amp needs a pedal with more gain. Maybe a Riot or Carl Martin Plexitone will do the trick.

But damm, after a few minutes with a plexi I know I'll never own one again. I don't know any club where you could use it even at 4 on the master unless you want the soundman throwing stuff at you.

You have to admit...the clean-ish tone was awesome.

 

[tripstan]

I like Barbers stuff but you'll be creeping towards like 150-200 . I'd say check out the older blue light (Version 1- V.3)OCD's. I used one on a Dr Z 6545 sounded great on both side. The KT45 side is non-MV and the SRZ65 side has Vol and Gain knobs. I A/B'd (V.4) to an older one (I think V.2) of a buddy of mine and V.2 was clearly better. Knobs had a better sweep and more control thru the entire sweep. Seemed warmed and more amp like to both of us too. If your not in a hurry you can fin one on ebay from 75-100 bucks or craigslist too. I'm also a very big fan of stacking pedals when I do use pedals.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

Bad Monkey's or Direct Drives just won't have enough. We tried a BB Preamp on said plexi and that amp needs a pedal with more gain. Maybe a Riot or Carl Martin Plexitone will do the trick.

But damm, after a few minutes with a plexi I know I'll never own one again. I don't know any club where you could use it even at 4 on the master unless you want the soundman throwing stuff at you.

The only time a Bad Monkey or Direct Drive will have enough is when that amp is dimed and by that time it's defeating the purpose!
he would have to hot plate the amp, get the amp up and cooking and then use a boost pedal.
If Brother Paige want's to get a saturated/ distorted sound at less then ear shattering volumes id look into any of the radial pedals.

With that said, I agree with you about the old school plexis and clubs

I had a feeling about the hot plate...I'm trying to avoid using one though.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

Stacking the right 2 pedals has been the key for me trying to get that type of tone from a semi clean amp. Not going to do it for under $100 though. A tube powered box slammed with a clean boost would be the ideal way. When I had a Komet 60 I ran a Bad Cat Xtreme tone into it with a Shiba slamming it. Massive tone, would have made a Herbert sound weak.

I can always stack my SD1 with something else...

 

[thiswaythatway]

Bad Monkey's or Direct Drives just won't have enough. We tried a BB Preamp on said plexi and that amp needs a pedal with more gain. Maybe a Riot or Carl Martin Plexitone will do the trick.

But damm, after a few minutes with a plexi I know I'll never own one again. I don't know any club where you could use it even at 4 on the master unless you want the soundman throwing stuff at you.

You have to admit...the clean-ish tone was awesome.

At least you get to play it during the day when the wife and kids aren't home.

 

[skoora]

Hate to say the cliche response...... but I will

Get an attenuator and then use a pedal as a boost with amp already driving. Set the amp to medium gain, roll off for clean and hit the pedal for 80's glory. No pedal or pedals will sound as inherently good as that amp providing as much of the gain as it can. Granted, my '69 circuit Metro is a different beast than the JH100 but I would never run it clean and use a pedal/s. The amp cranked through an attenuator crushes any of the pedals I've tried (on a clean setting).

 

[Gainfreak]

Bad Monkey's or Direct Drives just won't have enough. We tried a BB Preamp on said plexi and that amp needs a pedal with more gain. Maybe a Riot or Carl Martin Plexitone will do the trick.

But damm, after a few minutes with a plexi I know I'll never own one again. I don't know any club where you could use it even at 4 on the master unless you want the soundman throwing stuff at you.

The only time a Bad Monkey or Direct Drive will have enough is when that amp is dimed and by that time it's defeating the purpose!
he would have to hot plate the amp, get the amp up and cooking and then use a boost pedal.
If Brother Paige want's to get a saturated/ distorted sound at less then ear shattering volumes id look into any of the radial pedals.

With that said, I agree with you about the old school plexis and clubs

I had a feeling about the hot plate...I'm trying to avoid using one though.

I kind of figured that you would be done with the Hotplate. I'm done with that as well
The key to getting boost to work well with Plexis has to do with volume and distorting the amp.
That's actually how the YJM amps work. You crank the shit out of the amp like you would a normal Plexi but you can bring the volume down with the built in power scaling. Then you just hit the built in DOD booster pedal and it takes it over the top. Even with the Power scaling cutting the volume the amp is still relatively clean but it has just enough grit and the DOD sends it over the top.
If I stuck a regular DOD boost in front of the amp without cranking the shit out of it first it would be very clean sounding and wouldn't do much.(kind of what you and Danny were experiancing)

You can definitely Stack your SD1 with something else for sure and that should do the trick or you could get a good sounding distortion box.
A straight up boost isn't going to work unless you get the volume up unfortunetely.

all IMHO!!!

 

[Greazygeo]

Plexi with the Hotplate is awesome....I've not used a pedal for quite awhile now. Hard to believe this amp has THAT much gain.

 

[luther910]

The OCD worked for me while I had an JMP.

 

[ratter]

OCD would be good. If it doesn't have enough juice for you, run the OCD for crunch and then hit that with the SD1...

 

[thiswaythatway]

OCD would be good. If it doesn't have enough juice for you, run the OCD for crunch and then hit that with the SD1...

I doubt an OCD would do it. Didn't most JMP's have master volumes? With a NMV Plexi like this it just doesn't have any gain at all until it's cranked. And if you set a pedal with the level cranked it raises the volume on the amp bigtime where on a master volume amp it adds gain. I think something like the Carl Martin Plexitone would be a good choice, that thing has a ton more gain than an OCD or BB Preamp.

 

[Badronald]

But damm, after a few minutes with a plexi I know I'll never own one again.

JTM45 = 30 watts. Is it loud? Hell yeah, but useable.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

I just picked up an old grey DOD 250 and that Digitech Hardwire Valve Dostortion. Let's see how they stack together...

 

[ratter]

OCD would be good. If it doesn't have enough juice for you, run the OCD for crunch and then hit that with the SD1...

I doubt an OCD would do it. Didn't most JMP's have master volumes? With a NMV Plexi like this it just doesn't have any gain at all until it's cranked. And if you set a pedal with the level cranked it raises the volume on the amp bigtime where on a master volume amp it adds gain. I think something like the Carl Martin Plexitone would be a good choice, that thing has a ton more gain than an OCD or BB Preamp.

Yeah I don't think it has enough for AIC on it's own. Hence the need to stack it.

What the OCD does do well (and maybe the plexitone does too...I haven't tried it) is meld with the amp. EQ wise it is pretty neutral. So the OCD would take it to plexi levels of gain and then you can hit it with the SD1 and it should be pretty similar to hitting the cranked amp with the SD1.

Not only would I NOT goose the level on the pedal, I would probably even run it lower than unity to calm things down a little bit.

Plimsoul came in the mail today. Very OCD-ish but less flat. More middy and bassy. It's a cool pedal too but also probably not enough on it's own.

$100 is a tough sell. If you could go $200 the Riot might be the ticket.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

But damm, after a few minutes with a plexi I know I'll never own one again.

JTM45 = 30 watts. Is it loud? Hell yeah, but useable.

Mine is a Super 100 (4 KT66's)

 

[Badronald]

But damm, after a few minutes with a plexi I know I'll never own one again.

JTM45 = 30 watts. Is it loud? Hell yeah, but useable.

Mine is a Super 100 (4 KT66's)

Yeah, those are painful. But cool!

 

[luther910]

I doubt an OCD would do it. Didn't most JMP's have master volumes? With a NMV Plexi like this it just doesn't have any gain at all until it's cranked.

My JMP was non master volume. Without attenuation it would blow out everyone's ears long before any brown sound could be achieved. The OCD sounded good at any volume setting.

 

[ratter]

ps - Happy NAD

 

[TrueTone500]

My vote goes to the Soldano "Supercharger G.T.O."

 

['63-Strat]

Amptweaker Tight Rock. It'll get you there and then some.

Wow I really like the FX loop/sidetrack concept of these. One of these and a delay pedal and maybe a tite drive in the "sidetrack" and tuner and I could probably get by with any clean amp and do minimal tap dancing.