Best SG that is NOT a Gibson

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155":3piqozym said:
esp viper...

Bu is the Viper really comparable to an SG outside of the body profile? They're a lot thicker and even the sound seems more of a cross between SG and LP.
 
Hello Music has SG Stds for $998 if anyone is interested. I know OP wants non Gibson. Don't know if thats a great deal or not given Sam Ash someone says had them for $799. Just bought a Fender American Std Strat HSS from them for under $800. I know thats a good deal.
 
I would think edwards or any of the quality MIJ SGs would be a good bet. Guild s100s and esp vipers are both cool but kind of a different thing. I know the gibson crowd has already tried to ram them down your throat but it might be worth considering grabbing a gibson for a decent price and dropping it off at a quality luthier for a refret, fix up etc. It will still probably come out cheaper than most of the custom builders.
 
grooveHT":c7o2hwim said:
What the shit guys, dude asked for alternatives to Gibson SGs, he didn't tell you that you were screwed up for playing Gibsons. But why not just jump all over him for not liking what you like, or having a bad lot of SGs at the stores near him.
No, His opening of this thread starts with a major bash of one of the most iconic and legendary guitar builders EVER, and then bashes again. I say when you open up with that, you get what you deserve. :gethim:
 
gibson08":28mj1mkx said:
grooveHT":28mj1mkx said:
What the shit guys, dude asked for alternatives to Gibson SGs, he didn't tell you that you were screwed up for playing Gibsons. But why not just jump all over him for not liking what you like, or having a bad lot of SGs at the stores near him.
No, His opening of this thread starts with a major bash of one of the most iconic and legendary guitar builders EVER, and then bashes again. I say when you open up with that, you get what you deserve. :gethim:


No, he is entitled to that opinion. It was his completely bullshit and unbelievable statements after about trying all SGs in 4 stores and in the used market and seeing they were all in the same state that made us come to the conclusion.
 
bigdaddyd":uzee2zlu said:
gibson08":uzee2zlu said:
grooveHT":uzee2zlu said:
What the shit guys, dude asked for alternatives to Gibson SGs, he didn't tell you that you were screwed up for playing Gibsons. But why not just jump all over him for not liking what you like, or having a bad lot of SGs at the stores near him.
No, His opening of this thread starts with a major bash of one of the most iconic and legendary guitar builders EVER, and then bashes again. I say when you open up with that, you get what you deserve. :gethim:


No, he is entitled to that opinion. It was his completely bullshit and unbelievable statements after about trying all SGs in 4 stores and in the used market and seeing they were all in the same state that made us come to the conclusion.

The Minotaur speaks again, but for some reason he's no longer man/horse enough to respond directly to me.

Once again, your lack of intellect & inflalated ego stops you from actually fathoming the concept that someone tried a certain type of guitar available in his local music stores & didn't find one that he'd want to shell out his hard earned currency for. What a totally absurd & unbelievable concept!!!!

You conclusion is based about as much on reality as the Great Pumpkin.

But really, lets put all this aside bigdaddyd. What I REALLY want to do is hear you play. You sound like a guy who'd be just absolutely freakin' awesome on his SG, or any other guitar, for that matter.

Do you have an clips that you'd like to educate me with?

I'll gladly post some of mine in return.

What do you say, bigdaddyd?
 
gibson08":1l5cjqqg said:
grooveHT":1l5cjqqg said:
What the shit guys, dude asked for alternatives to Gibson SGs, he didn't tell you that you were screwed up for playing Gibsons. But why not just jump all over him for not liking what you like, or having a bad lot of SGs at the stores near him.
No, His opening of this thread starts with a major bash of one of the most iconic and legendary guitar builders EVER, and then bashes again. I say when you open up with that, you get what you deserve. :gethim:


Ahhhhh, NO!! My post opened up with me complaining about the SGs I tried in my local music stores.

Can you please be kind enough to show me where I bashed Gibson as a whole in my opening thread, claimed all their guitars suck & people who play them are maroons?

Enquiring minds want to know...& maybe a Minotaur or two.
 
Doughboy":kc98elmu said:
gibson08":kc98elmu said:
grooveHT":kc98elmu said:
What the shit guys, dude asked for alternatives to Gibson SGs, he didn't tell you that you were screwed up for playing Gibsons. But why not just jump all over him for not liking what you like, or having a bad lot of SGs at the stores near him.
No, His opening of this thread starts with a major bash of one of the most iconic and legendary guitar builders EVER, and then bashes again. I say when you open up with that, you get what you deserve. :gethim:


Ahhhhh, NO!! My post opened up with me complaining about the SGs I tried in my local music stores.

Can you please be kind enough to show me where I bashed Gibson as a whole in my opening thread, claimed all their guitars suck & people who play them are maroons?

Enquiring minds want to know...& maybe a Minotaur or two.

"I am looking to buy an SG style guitar, but do not want to purchase a Gibson, due to their lack of quality & craftsmanship. "

That was your opening post.
 
To me an sg should have a 1 pc body. It's hard to come across a new production Gibson these days that has one. It's pretty shitty that you buy a USA Gibson sg and can have up to 6 pieces of wood glued together for the body so I get why the op is a bit Leary. I would just buy used online if you don't have many stores in your area. Most of my guitars were bought online and almost all have been great experiences.
 
GCDEF":3hvb9ur1 said:
Doughboy":3hvb9ur1 said:
gibson08":3hvb9ur1 said:
grooveHT":3hvb9ur1 said:
What the shit guys, dude asked for alternatives to Gibson SGs, he didn't tell you that you were screwed up for playing Gibsons. But why not just jump all over him for not liking what you like, or having a bad lot of SGs at the stores near him.
No, His opening of this thread starts with a major bash of one of the most iconic and legendary guitar builders EVER, and then bashes again. I say when you open up with that, you get what you deserve. :gethim:


Ahhhhh, NO!! My post opened up with me complaining about the SGs I tried in my local music stores.

Can you please be kind enough to show me where I bashed Gibson as a whole in my opening thread, claimed all their guitars suck & people who play them are maroons?

Enquiring minds want to know...& maybe a Minotaur or two.

"I am looking to buy an SG style guitar, but do not want to purchase a Gibson, due to their lack of quality & craftsmanship. "

That was your opening post.

Yupe. That's my opening post. Now please point out where I throw out a blanket statement that ALL Gibsons are crap. Gibson is a crap company, how all Gibson players are crap etc .

Anyone with an ounce of deductive reasoning would quickly realize that since this is a post about SGs, & I am looking, unsuccessfully, I may add, for an SG, that it is the Gibson SG's that I tried that lack quality & craftsmanship.

Was this too hard for you to grasp?

I mean, I realize Minotaur man is not capbale of such things, but you're human, right? With a human brain?
 
bigdaddyd":1kez0r46 said:
mchn13":1kez0r46 said:


Don't forget the beer :cheers:

What's wrong bigdaddyd? Those massive Minotaur hooves of yours making it hard to type & respond to me directly?

Come on bigdaddyd. Why not post some of your awesome playing to shut me up & put me in my place.

I mean, I'm apparently a liar with a vandetta against Gibson. Take out those lovely SGs of yours & teach this ol' Doughboy a lesson.

Don't tell me you're scared bigdaddyd? :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
Doughboy":2ikj4f32 said:
bigdaddyd":2ikj4f32 said:
mchn13":2ikj4f32 said:


Don't forget the beer :cheers:

What's wrong bigdaddyd? Those massive Minotaur hooves of yours making it hard to type & respond to me directly?

Come on bigdaddyd. Why not post some of your awesome playing to shut me up & put me in my place.

I mean, I'm apparently a liar with a vandetta against Gibson. Take out those lovely SGs of yours & teach this ol' Doughboy a lesson.

Don't tell me you're scared bigdaddyd? :cry: :cry: :cry:

Just to appease you I will respond this one. Quite frankly you don't register as much as a fart in my life. Aside from this one response, you are not worthy of a direct response. I already said that I don't believe you, so either I think you are a liar or someone that has no clue. Therefore you are simply not worthy of a direct response from me. As far as a clip from me, what does that matter? I never posted about my skills as a player. Whether I am the best or worst player out there has zero bearing on my knowledge of gear, which is rather extensive.

I could give a shit what you own. I don't care if you like Gibson or not...more for me. I don't own Gibson stock. I simply think you are a man of zero credibility. I don't need your approval for anything, yet you need the approval of strangers on the internet to purchase a guitar. WGAS what guitar people recommend? Do some research and try some on your own. There is a reason the Gibson SG has been around so long and has been copied by so many companies. If you don't like Gibson, go try other some other companies models and find one you like. Stop asking people for their opinion if you are a sensitive little bitch and can't take it. As for being scared of you, I couldn't be less scared of you. You don't even make sense. You sound even dumber than Vince Sansevere and his retarded threats. Feel free to keep posting at me, however you will never get another response. I would put you ignore, but I enjoy your moronic posts too much.
 
Doughboy":4m6ri7mv said:
bigdaddyd":4m6ri7mv said:
mchn13":4m6ri7mv said:


Don't forget the beer :cheers:

What's wrong bigdaddyd? Those massive Minotaur hooves of yours making it hard to type & respond to me directly?

Come on bigdaddyd. Why not post some of your awesome playing to shut me up & put me in my place.

I mean, I'm apparently a liar with a vandetta against Gibson. Take out those lovely SGs of yours & teach this ol' Doughboy a lesson.

Don't tell me you're scared bigdaddyd? :cry: :cry: :cry:

Time to step away from the computer. If he posts a clip, will that suddenly make all Gibsons great, or somehow validate your nonsensical point that they suck? All you're doing here is proving you started this thread looking for a fight. I guess you got what you wanted, but you're acting like a 10 year old girl.
 
Doughboy":69l9y094 said:
I am looking to buy an SG style guitar, but do not want to purchase a Gibson, due to their lack of quality & craftsmanship.

Which brands out there sell a quality high end SG type guitar?
OK, Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but looking at your quote I simply see that you do not want a Gibson due to their lack of quality and craftsmanship. Maybe you should say that YOU dont think their build quality is up to their price structure so you would like other choices. It reads like a blanket statement of fact. I always try to type everything as I would say it right to their face and be clear about it, its really different when you put it into type and everyone else gets to analyze it. I try not to come off as an ass (but sometimes happens :lol: :LOL: ) and some people it just comes out naturally :lol: :LOL: . Anyway, their is only one real SG tone, if thats what YOU REALLY WANT you know the answer :doh: but I did suggest a good substitute if you want close to that tone with aPRS Mira and PRS craftsmanship is second to none. Good luck, its not too hard if you know what you are looking for.
 
Doughboy":2jifhqe0 said:
Come on bigdaddyd. Why not post some of your awesome playing to shut me up & put me in my place.

Wait, so you're talking about people with an ounce of deductive reasoning skills and then pulling out this ridiculous fallacy?
 
bigdaddyd":hklmdr4q said:
Doughboy":hklmdr4q said:
bigdaddyd":hklmdr4q said:
mchn13":hklmdr4q said:


Don't forget the beer :cheers:

What's wrong bigdaddyd? Those massive Minotaur hooves of yours making it hard to type & respond to me directly?

Come on bigdaddyd. Why not post some of your awesome playing to shut me up & put me in my place.

I mean, I'm apparently a liar with a vandetta against Gibson. Take out those lovely SGs of yours & teach this ol' Doughboy a lesson.

Don't tell me you're scared bigdaddyd? :cry: :cry: :cry:

Just to appease you I will respond this one. Quite frankly you don't register as much as a fart in my life. Aside from this one response, you are not worthy of a direct response. I already said that I don't believe you, so either I think you are a liar or someone that has no clue. Therefore you are simply not worthy of a direct response from me. As far as a clip from me, what does that matter? I never posted about my skills as a player. Whether I am the best or worst player out there has zero bearing on my knowledge of gear, which is rather extensive.

I could give a shit what you own. I don't care if you like Gibson or not...more for me. I don't own Gibson stock. I simply think you are a man of zero credibility. I don't need your approval for anything, yet you need the approval of strangers on the internet to purchase a guitar. WGAS what guitar people recommend? Do some research and try some on your own. There is a reason the Gibson SG has been around so long and has been copied by so many companies. If you don't like Gibson, go try other some other companies models and find one you like. Stop asking people for their opinion if you are a sensitive little bitch and can't take it. As for being scared of you, I couldn't be less scared of you. You don't even make sense. You sound even dumber than Vince Sansevere and his retarded threats. Feel free to keep posting at me, however you will never get another response. I would put you ignore, but I enjoy your moronic posts too much.

My oh my, Minotaur man. You are a dumb dumb, aren't you?

Obviously I DO register & you DO care or you wouldn't have wasted a mere second reading the posts, let alone replying. People who 'don't care' or don't deem someone 'worthy' do not do this. I'd expect this kind of reply from a newbie or a moron. But since you have 1000s of posts to your name, you're hardly a newbie.

You're obviously not very bright or you'd have realized that just because someone doesn't find the right guitar for themselves in their locale, it doesn't make them a liar or clueless. Especially since you know nothing about that person or even where they live. I'd expect this kind of reply from a newbie or a moron. But since you have 1000s of posts to your name, you're hardly a newbie.

As for the great bigdadyd needing my approval? Where did you get that from? I asked the board about info none Gibson style SGs. You saw this as seeking approval? Obviously you have deep deep childhood issues to even see this in such a manner.

As for the clip? I'm new to this board but I've been in guitar forums for years & the one thing you can count on is that idiot loud mouths who deem themselves as experts are generally THE WORST players. They're wonderful at hurling insults about all things guitar related but fail at the actual playing of the guitar. There are some amazing players on this board that are humble & helpful with their posts. You're better at running your mouth behind the computer than your fingers on a fretboard.

Your quote " If you don't like Gibson, go try other some other companies models and find one you like." really sayhs it all though. Your lack of cognition, deduction & ability to understand the English language in full force. Isn't this what my post was about in the 1st place? Asking about OTHER COMPANIES that make SGs? What a maroon.

bigdaddyd, you're just an internet blowhard. A self proclaimed expert who can probably barely play.
Am I wrong? Post a clip & put me in my place if you have the courage. Somehow all of us on the board realize this will never happen. Better stay silent & try to save face than post a clip & lose all of your board cred.

What a dumbass....& that's not a misspelling of the last name of the French guy who wrote the Three Musketeers. :doh:
 
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