Bogner Uberschall Rev Green vs Rev Blue Video

[FourT6and2]

I'm confused. Video (and other users) state Rev 2, aka: Rev Green, has no taper on gain control and it's really on/off. And yet, other people state that the Rev 2/Green amps addressed this by changing the taper. Which is it?

 

[braintheory]

I'm confused. Video (and other users) state Rev 2, aka: Rev Green, has no taper on gain control and it's really on/off. And yet, other people state that the Rev 2/Green amps addressed this by changing the taper. Which is it?

It’s the first version/original Rev that has that fast taper. The Rev 2 fixed it, but also doesn’t IME have the balls of the original that made it a special amp for me (at least my friend’s Rev2 is like that vs my original). Maybe there was some trade off in sound to fix it, not sure. I don’t use the term “Rev green” since some guys seem to also call the original version the green. That could be part of the confusion

 

[FourT6and2]

It’s the first version/original Rev that has that fast taper. The Rev 2 fixed it, but also doesn’t IME have the balls of the original that made it a special amp for me (at least my friend’s Rev2 is like that vs my original). Maybe there was some trade off in sound to fix it, not sure. I don’t use the term “Rev green” since some guys seem to also call the original version the green. That could be part of the confusion

Yeah there's gotta be some confusion around which version people think they have then. The OP here states the "Rev Green" in his video has little to no taper on the gain control. So to me, that means it's not a Rev Green/Rev 2. It's the original version. And yet... it has the leather handle, so it has to be a later release. It's easy enough to change a handle though... Something's not adding up.

Maybe he thinks the original = Rev Green? I was under the impression the Rev 2 and Rev Green were the same.

 

[braintheory]

Yeah there's gotta be some confusion around which version people think they have then. The OP here states the "Rev Green" in his video has little to no taper on the gain control. So to me, that means it's not a Rev Green/Rev 2. It's the original version. And yet... it has the leather handle, so it has to be a later release. It's easy enough to change a handle though... Something's not adding up.

Maybe he thinks the original = Rev Green? I was under the impression the Rev 2 and Rev Green were the same.

I also thought Rev 2=Rev Green, but some posts made me unsure. I try to go by serial #, but there can also be some grey areas there

 

[Techdeth]

I loved the Rev Blue I had. With a boost or even the right cab, it could be super tight, articulate and cutting, but still had a touch of sag to avoid being stiff.

This is exactly why I love blue most . Even on my 8 string the blue is so damn articulate and clear. Love it

 

[FourT6and2]

This is exactly why I love blue most . Even on my 8 string the blue is so damn articulate and clear. Love it

This is a great sounding Rev Blue clip. At least I think it's a Rev Blue, hard to tell because of the lighting. Definitely sounds more high-mid/Marshally compared to most Uber clips.

 

[Techdeth]

This is a great sounding Rev Blue clip. At least I think it's a Rev Blue, hard to tell because of the lighting. Definitely sounds more high-mid/Marshally compared to most Uber clips.

Sounds killer .

 

[Bad.Seed]

Yeah there's gotta be some confusion around which version people think they have then. The OP here states the "Rev Green" in his video has little to no taper on the gain control. So to me, that means it's not a Rev Green/Rev 2. It's the original version. And yet... it has the leather handle, so it has to be a later release. It's easy enough to change a handle though... Something's not adding up.

Maybe he thinks the original = Rev Green? I was under the impression the Rev 2 and Rev Green were the same.

I'll need to dig up the pictures at some point. I pulled the amp apart when I got it and sent the info to Adlane. Goofy ass dude, but he confirmed that it was in fact a Rev green and not an original rev, or "rev purple" as they are also referred to as.

I truthfully don't know a ton about them because I'm not the world's biggest Uberschall or Bogner fan. I do still have the amp though, so I'm sure at some point I could pull it apart again if I can't find the pictures.

 

[Metal1977]

Better I don’t know, mine has something like this. I was told by Bogner it was done to solve noise issues.

 

[FourT6and2]

I'll need to dig up the pictures at some point. I pulled the amp apart when I got it and sent the info to Adlane. Goofy ass dude, but he confirmed that it was in fact a Rev green and not an original rev, or "rev purple" as they are also referred to as.

I truthfully don't know a ton about them because I'm not the world's biggest Uberschall or Bogner fan. I do still have the amp though, so I'm sure at some point I could pull it apart again if I can't find the pictures.

I'm not doubting you. It's just that the Rev Green / Rev 2 is supposed to have fixed the gain taper issue. That was one of the points of the revision. So to have one of those amps, but with the gain control that functions just like the original, it's a bit confusing.

 

[saxxamafone]

I'm confused. Video (and other users) state Rev 2, aka: Rev Green, has no taper on gain control and it's really on/off. And yet, other people state that the Rev 2/Green amps addressed this by changing the taper. Which is it?

People often interchange original and rev green, rev 2 etc.

Bogner seem to think there were about 125-ish originals made so best to go by serial numbers.

Differences between originals and greens are supposed to be pretty minimal, blue however is a different sounding amp for sure

 

[Disfigured]

It’s the first version/original Rev that has that fast taper. The Rev 2 fixed it, but also doesn’t IME have the balls of the original that made it a special amp for me (at least my friend’s Rev2 is like that vs my original). Maybe there was some trade off in sound to fix it, not sure. I don’t use the term “Rev green” since some guys seem to also call the original version the green. That could be part of the confusion

Strange, because I once AB’d my Rev 2 with a friend’s Rev 1, and aside from the tapers, the gain channels sounded virtually indistinguishable from one another, the Rev 2 was maybe ever so slightly smoother, and that could have been a difference in tubes. But definitely were equal in the balls department,
So since then, when somebody refers to either the Rev 1 or Rev 2, except for the taper I just consider them to be the same amp.

 

[FourT6and2]

People often interchange original and rev green, rev 2 etc.

Bogner seem to think there were about 125-ish originals made so best to go by serial numbers.

Differences between originals and greens are supposed to be pretty minimal, blue however is a different sounding amp for sure

In your experience, how does the blue differ? I've read conflicting reports and clips don't really help. Here's a fantastic sounding clip of a non-Rev Blue. I don't know if it's an original or Rev2/Green whatever.

 

[saxxamafone]

In your experience, how does the blue differ? I've read conflicting reports and clips don't really help. Here's a fantastic sounding clip of a non-Rev Blue. I don't know if it's an original or Rev2/Green whatever.

Have a listen from 0:30 in this vid.
Shows the difference between the 2 the best in my opinion.

The Rev 2/original has a huge sonic sound that includes the highs and high mids.
Makes it sound pissed off.

The blue seems to take away some of those high mids and sounds more 'muffled' and not as in your face to me.

 

[psychodave]

I had my green in a room with the blue and the green was more organic... kinda like the difference between a 2C+ and a Mark III. Both have that signature sound, but the green has an added something the blue lacks. I had an original revision as well, but I cant remember how it was since it was so long ago. lol

I had a killer original block letter Peavey 5150 (with sylvania 6L6's) that I loved, but if I plugged in the Uber green after playing it, I would just look at the 5150 thinking its a turd vs. the Uber.

 

[FourT6and2]

Have a listen from 0:30 in this vid.
Shows the difference between the 2 the best in my opinion.

The Rev 2/original has a huge sonic sound that includes the highs and high mids.
Makes it sound pissed off.

The blue seems to take away some of those high mids and sounds more 'muffled' and not as in your face to me.

Yeah, I've seen that one (that's the one in the OP of this thread lol). Hard to really get a good idea from it. It's easier for me to hear the differences in a clip recorded in the room, vs mic'd. Also that's the conflicting info I keep hearing from people. Many say the opposite—that the blue has more highs/high-mids and sounds more pissed off.

I actually used to own a Rev 2 back in 2006-2008. Bought it new for $2,199. Now used prices in some cases are upwards of $3,400 lol

 

[saxxamafone]

Yeah, I've seen that one (that's the one in the OP of this thread lol). Hard to really get a good idea from it. It's easier for me to hear the differences in a clip recorded in the room, vs mic'd. Also that's the conflicting info I keep hearing from people. Many say the opposite—that the blue has more highs/high-mids and sounds more pissed off.

I actually used to own a Rev 2 back in 2006-2008. Bought it new for $2,199. Now used prices in some cases are upwards of $3,400 lol

haha whoops.

I actually need a mic'd clip to hear properly the differences between amps.
I can hear the difference between the 2 very clearly here... If you can't hear any difference in this video than you could buy a blue and probably be very happy with it.

Room sounds can have frequencies bouncing all over the place and I only care about how an amp sounds mic'd because that's what's going in a full mix.
My opinion of course

Lastly, many players don't know what the hell they're talking about

All I can say is the big difference I hear in this youtube clip is the same difference I heard when I owned both amps.

There's a reason the rev2/green/originals cost so much more...

 

[braintheory]

haha whoops.

I actually need a mic'd clip to hear properly the differences between amps.
I can hear the difference between the 2 very clearly here... If you can't hear any difference in this video than you could buy a blue and probably be very happy with it.

Room sounds can have frequencies bouncing all over the place and I only care about how an amp sounds mic'd because that's what's going in a full mix.
My opinion of course

Lastly, many players don't know what the hell they're talking about

All I can say is the big difference I hear in this youtube clip is the same difference I heard when I owned both amps.

There's a reason the rev2/green/originals cost so much more...

Agreed on all. Those iPhone clips always sound very vague, washed out, no detail. It amazes when guy's think those kinds of clips sound killer lol, but I guess I used to somehow also be in that camp. The Rev Blue & Twin Jet I wasn't impressed by. They are the reason I had Uberschall's crossed off my list for a while. I didn't know about the revisions back then

 

[midgod07]

Rev Green vs Rev Blue Uberschall!
There are marked differences in these two badass amps. Not many side by side comparisons out there.

Rev green lives up to the "More Aggresive" description it has been given as it has a dramatic upper mid spike with a lot less roundness in the mids specifically, and EQ overall. It also does have little to no sweep on the gain pot. It's pretty much on or off.

I'm split on which one I like more. In the room and listening back, my opinions are slightly varied.

Take a listen and let me know your thoughts!

can i ask a stupid question? i've never owned a Bogner but would like to. is there a way to tell if it's a green or a blue just by looking at it?

 

[saxxamafone]

can i ask a stupid question? i've never owned a Bogner but would like to. is there a way to tell if it's a green or a blue just by looking at it?

yes look at the pilot light on the amp.

Rev blues are small and blue light.
Rev greens and originals are a larger green light