Burny John Sykes...

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I almost feel as if a lot of these MIJ LP's came out of the same factories back in the day. Edwards, Burny, Greco.

What do we know about BACCHUS? Another name to throw in the hat.
 
I almost feel as if a lot of these MIJ LP's came out of the same factories back in the day. Edwards, Burny, Greco.

What do we know about BACCHUS? Another name to throw in the hat.
I’ve had 5-6 Japanese Bacchus’ and my buddy around 4, and they’re excellent guitars. Quality has been consistent, and I’d say they’re as good as any good example of the Gibsons they’re copying.
 
You can score a nice MIJ Greco for 6-800 shipped if you’re patient. I just got one in, a 1980 iced tea burst for 570 all in. Ordered on last Tuesday evening and it got here Friday afternoon. 3 freaking days. From Tokyo. Eg500 (make sure you check the weight; some 500s can be chambered) at 10lbs. Like others have said, 1977-1987 for Greco eg 500 on up and you’ll get a killer guitar for less than 1k
 

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Just recieved an email-"made in china and set up in Japan..." That's on an Edwards Sykes.

edit-I would prefer MIJ but I'm cool with chinese. I have 1 chinese, 1 Indonesian, and one Japanese right now.
With Edwards, you have to dig a little to get the truth on where they were made. If you see one without a serial that actually means it’s an MIJ version. I had a 99 Sykes. There’s a number in the neck pup opening that tells you. They started serials in 2001 and I believe in 2011 they started outsourcing to China but finished assembly in Japan.
 
With Edwards, you have to dig a little to get the truth on where they were made. If you see one without a serial that actually means it’s an MIJ version. I had a 99 Sykes. There’s a number in the neck pup opening that tells you. They started serials in 2001 and I believe in 2011 they started outsourcing to China but finished assembly in Japan.

I've got a 2005 with the EDO serial number. I am going to guess it was MIJ but can't rule out "assembled" in Japan

Going to keep my eyes out on Bacchus. Seen some cool relic'd black ones out there. I think that would be cool for a Vivian / Sykes sort of vibe.
 
I almost feel as if a lot of these MIJ LP's came out of the same factories back in the day. Edwards, Burny, Greco.

What do we know about BACCHUS? Another name to throw in the hat.
Edwards no, Burny yes. Bacchus no
 
Great thread I’ve been eyeballing the Sykes nodes out there as well. Lots of good info in here
 
waiting to hear back on those two I showed you...the sykes with the kahler and that epi....I'm hoping the sykes has the dry's, and also the pups in the epi...
Keep in mind that the Dry and the Dry Z ‘s aren’t the same. They weren’t used after 1982
 
Digging this thread back up... what do we think of TOKAI? Princed in the 1200-1500 range on a lot of newer MIJ axes. Look pretty nice.
 
Digging this thread back up... what do we think of TOKAI? Princed in the 1200-1500 range on a lot of newer MIJ axes. Look pretty nice.
Same thing, probably a bit more loved than Burny and Greco even, when looking at the 80's made ones.

Orville had the Gibson-connection; some of the supposedly better ones even had the 'by Gibson' tag on the headstock below the logo:
Orville-by-gibson-Headstock-Les-Paul.jpg


Tokai generally has been more expensive than Burny and Greco. Not sure if you get more quality if you're comparing 'equal versions', since all these Japanese Les Pauls had lower-end and higher end stuff.
Take a Greco EG-1200, you probably pay $3k or more for those these days.
EDIT: Make that $4k. Or $2.4k for a worn out, ugly one.

That's Gibson money. But my firm belief is that the intermediate and higher end Japanese ones were far more consistent than what Gibson was churning out in the 70's and 80's. Mind you, I've played an awesome 70's Gibson LPC, which turned out to be the local town's 'slut', as I found out that it switched owners at least 4 times all within a 3 mile radius.
But boy, were there some dead stinkers too, that still fetched $2k+ because of the name. And in such cases, I rather fork up $2k for a Japanese made guitar, with eye for detail, quality and consistency. I'll probably yank out the electronics anyway, as I did with my 3 Burny's, so there's Switchcraft, Bourns and Tusq stuff on it. And Grover or Gotoh tuners.
 
Same thing, probably a bit more loved than Burny and Greco even, when looking at the 80's made ones.

Orville had the Gibson-connection; some of the supposedly better ones even had the 'by Gibson' tag on the headstock below the logo:
Orville-by-gibson-Headstock-Les-Paul.jpg


Tokai generally has been more expensive than Burny and Greco. Not sure if you get more quality if you're comparing 'equal versions', since all these Japanese Les Pauls had lower-end and higher end stuff.
Take a Greco EG-1200, you probably pay $3k or more for those these days.
EDIT: Make that $4k. Or $2.4k for a worn out, ugly one.

That's Gibson money. But my firm belief is that the intermediate and higher end Japanese ones were far more consistent than what Gibson was churning out in the 70's and 80's. Mind you, I've played an awesome 70's Gibson LPC, which turned out to be the local town's 'slut', as I found out that it switched owners at least 4 times all within a 3 mile radius.
But boy, were there some dead stinkers too, that still fetched $2k+ because of the name. And in such cases, I rather fork up $2k for a Japanese made guitar, with eye for detail, quality and consistency. I'll probably yank out the electronics anyway, as I did with my 3 Burny's, so there's Switchcraft, Bourns and Tusq stuff on it. And Grover or Gotoh tuners.

Good info but I concur , if I'm going over 2k o might as well keep saving and hold out for a Gibson LP standard. The newer tokai interest me for the 1k-1200$ range guitars though. It is a crowded space though, lots of Japanese guitars sit right there and then you have the other brands coming in at 600-800 before you have the 300-600 brands. I just think I'd sooner go tokai than epiphone. Might be a brand thing but having an epiphome just never feels good enough. Seeing a completely diff brand on the headstock convinces me more.
 
I'm in love with that greco I just got. It's going to need some love for the electronics...it's an 84 of course and has been tinkered with....but playability and feel is there in spades. fuck Gibson and their 2.5k+price tags on non custom shop shit. If I upgrade the pups....I know a guy....if I upgrade the wiring....I know another guy....now if I could just learn how to play it....lol...
 
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