Carvin or Les Paul Custom?

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Shouldn't be much of a surprise, but I'd vote for the LPC, but I would encourage you to commit to playing quite a few and find the one that has the qualities you like the most of the bunch.

While I agree that Gibson has abysmal quality control, but that doesn't mean they don't make great guitars. When you find a good one, the quality is top notch, but because Gibson makes so many duds, they get a reputation of putting out lower-quality guitars, but when they do make a flawless guitar, it can stand up against other custom shops. I completed a full comparison/contrast between (what is now) my LPC and other high-end guitars, and walked away with the LPC.
 
May take a minute to find one you bond with, but Id go for the LP, all day every day. Carvin builds a quality product, but just not for me.
 
Carving are very cool, playable guitars - I have one myself. But they don't hold their value for shit. GET THE LES PAUL. It will hold it's value and in this day and age - every dollar counts. If you already had a Paul, then I'd say get a Carvin for something different. But if you could only have ONE guitar.......it has to be a Gibson.
 
fretout":1trgtpqm said:
Shouldn't be much of a surprise, but I'd vote for the LPC, but I would encourage you to commit to playing quite a few and find the one that has the qualities you like the most of the bunch.

While I agree that Gibson has abysmal quality control, but that doesn't mean they don't make great guitars. When you find a good one, the quality is top notch, but because Gibson makes so many duds, they get a reputation of putting out lower-quality guitars, but when they do make a flawless guitar, it can stand up against other custom shops. I completed a full comparison/contrast between (what is now) my LPC and other high-end guitars, and walked away with the LPC.


It looks like you have a ton of Les Paul Customs, any particular years I should look for? I know some have the richlite instead of Ebony. Does anyone notice that much of a difference with the richlite?

I appreciate all the advice from the forum members here. I am going to try as many LPC's as I can find around town today and see how I bond with them compared to my Studio.
 
No dog in this fight as I'm a Charvel/Jackson guy. That said, the LPC would be the better investment.
 
I guess you have to decide if you're buying the guitar as an investment, for future resale value & for the coolness historic aspect of it, or for playability, craftsmanship & quality.

I have a ton of one off custom built guitars that are worthless when it comes to resale value, but they're amazing instruments that outplay virtually anything you can buy off the shelf at 3x the price.
 
Les Paul when you find one that is set up properly its butter!
 
I bet 99.9999% of the people advocating a Gibson have never played or even seen a Carvin in person.
 
I have a 2014 Silverburst LPC sitting here as well as a few carvins.

IMO the Carvins are much better bang for buck and play better.

Tone is subjective so I won't comment on that.

I would personally go with Carvin but if you've always wanted a Les Paul then buy one.

Definitely buy the LP used though. They have horrid resale.
 
Doughboy":15fmfcvn said:
I bet 99.9999% of the people advocating a Gibson have never played or even seen a Carvin in person.
I owned two so count me out
 
If your dream is to own a Gibson Les Paul, then there is no other choice. Nothing looks & feels like a genuine real deal LP.

However, if you want a Les Paul 'type' guitar that plays better, is made better, & I mean WAAAAAYYYYY better, costs less & imho, sounds better than a LP, then Carvin is the one to go with.

It just depends if you want a great over all guitar or a cool status guitar.

For what it's worth, here is an old low-def video of me & my Carvin CS6.

 
Virtually all old school guys play Fender, Marshall, Gibson etc.

Their gear knowledge stopped cold in the mid 70s & anything newer is not 'vintage' enough.

But whatever make you happy is good & whatever doesn't should be passed on.

I think the OP would mentally be better off buying a genuine Gibson LP or else it may always bug him until the end of time.
 
Get the Gibson if that is your dream guitar. I would say the Carvin will be better built though...lol.
 
RockyStar":1uu5q2qe said:
Get the Gibson if that is your dream guitar. I would say the Carvin will be better built though...lol.

I agree 10000%.

If a LP is your dream guitar, don't consider anything else. Once you're old enough to be able to afford your childhood dreams, it's a shame to not be able to realize them.

Mine was this guitar, but I'd be too embarrassed to play it in public, but when I was a kid in the 80s, I wanted one sooooo bad.

Charvel_Journeyman.jpg
 
For new price, in terms of playability, Carvin is by far the best bang for buck brand by a wide, wide margin. Whether you should get one over something like a Les Paul is purely subjective and based on what you want.
 
spawn802":3vwskv52 said:
fretout":3vwskv52 said:
Shouldn't be much of a surprise, but I'd vote for the LPC, but I would encourage you to commit to playing quite a few and find the one that has the qualities you like the most of the bunch.

While I agree that Gibson has abysmal quality control, but that doesn't mean they don't make great guitars. When you find a good one, the quality is top notch, but because Gibson makes so many duds, they get a reputation of putting out lower-quality guitars, but when they do make a flawless guitar, it can stand up against other custom shops. I completed a full comparison/contrast between (what is now) my LPC and other high-end guitars, and walked away with the LPC.


It looks like you have a ton of Les Paul Customs, any particular years I should look for? I know some have the richlite instead of Ebony. Does anyone notice that much of a difference with the richlite?

I appreciate all the advice from the forum members here. I am going to try as many LPC's as I can find around town today and see how I bond with them compared to my Studio.

After I played a 1968 Reissue, I was pretty much hooked on that particular model. If you can find one, they're my absolute favorite, and they seem to be made better...more consistently than other Customs.

As for which years to look for, I prefer any of the 2001 to 2005 variety, and the early 90s are all really well made. If you look for a LPC made after 2005, they made some good ones, but you really REALLY have to inspect them to make sure they have the right specs and they have the attention to detail you'll be happy with.

As for the Ebony vs. Richlite, I prefer Ebony...even opposed to Brazillian Rosewood, so my personal choice is to score an LPC that has Ebony. If you don't feel/hear much of a difference between Ebony/Rosewood/Richlite/Bakelite/Ect., then you can buy a Custom that has a fretboard made of Richlite/Other and use that as a way to negotiate the price down. In my personal opinion, it makes a little difference in the tone, but the feel is like night and day to me. Without getting flamed for my personal opinion, I'd tell my brother to buy a Custom with an Ebony fretboard and pass on the rest, but that's just me.

I've owned around 12 Customs at this point, so yeah, I have more experience with them than I would have liked. My first Custom had developed a twisted neck and it was sent to Gibson to fix. They sent another 7 guitars to me. That really allowed me to see the quality they were putting out. Not good. They final guitar they sent me came out perfect, and I mean perfect. I could bottom out the strings with no buzzing or intonation problems.

If you have any questions about the Customs, I'll do my best to help you out!

EDIT: And just to add some experiences to this thread, all of my guitars sound different than the next. I have one that has a TON of treble bite, and I have one that has such deep tone to it, I thought it was chambered, but after an x-ray, it confirmed it was completely solid.



 
Come on, side by side!

Doughboy":246h5o7l said:
I bet 99.9999% of the people advocating a Gibson have never played or even seen a Carvin in person.
 
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