Diezel VH4S - Still Disappointed

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For that kind of cash you better hear close to what you want pretty damn quick. The amp I listed and everyone cried about has the "IT" factor right now and would dry those tears right up bc it needs nothing and neither should one of these but here we are, my Cameron modded Marshall would put that amp on it's heels.
 
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I would agree that an amp of this caliber shouldn’t need an eq in the loop. That’s a band aid for an amp that isn’t voiced correctly. Just get one that sounds right from the start.
 
Ive never had an amp that sounded GREAT out the box. I guess its just ADD thing for me. Crutch or not it works for me the last 20 years. Each their own I suppose.
 
To me it is like buying a steak dinner. Yeah tastes great. But I like little steak sauces. Salt and pepper. Don’t mean the steak isn’t bad. 😉
 
The problem is, when you buy an amp off the shelf, it’s voiced to someone else’s ear. You’re paying for what someone else thinks is the perfect tone. Rarely is that what you think is perfect tone. Thus the tone chasing begins, using EQ’s, different pickups, guitars, etc, etc...

I took it upon myself to learn how to mod amps myself. I don’t claim to be a pro. But I can significantly shape the sound of a preamp section to MY ear. Takes many hours, lots of different value components and a set of alligator clips, but it dials the amp in to my ear and what I think is perfection. I have a couple amps I’ve done this to and I never use a pedal, eq, anything with them. They sound just how I imagine in my head. It’s a priceless skill to be able to adjust the circuit to suit your needs.

I will say though that some amps off the shelf are naturally closer to what I want to hear. The vh4 just happens to be on the opposite side of the spectrum. But if a vh4 with an EQ is what you want to hear, well, that’s not wrong...
 
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Yes I like to always add little something to make my tone. I don’t own a VH4 anymore. Been playing the archon last few years.
 
Adam Jones with Tool uses this amp to great effect but he uses it with another amp like a Rectifier and a Super Bass. Also he has pedals in front of the VH4 including a Boss Flanger and EQ. He runs multiple Amps at the same time but the VH4 is a core feature of his tone.

If I had a VH4 I would play Tool and nothing else. I have the pedal and it's amazing.
 
Yes their core tone is very original. I loved the ones I had.
 
When I had an '07 VH4 and a Recto cab, I thought that alone sounded close enough for me to what I heard from Tool's 10,000 album. I did like the amp, but too compressed for me ultimately.
 
Blasphemy here......
But I have never listened to Tool. 😅
Think i heard the song Prison sex though. Not bad. Just not my style.
 
Nah man it’s all good.
from your vids you know the drill. Any little bump in the chain can make or break.
 
I used the EQ and a delay in the loop. But that’s on all my amps. Just takes the core tone. And makes it HUGE. 😎
 
Thought i'd drop these rough tracks i'm working on here as an example.

I agree the VH4 is more rounder and big (sometimes strange) in the mids.

Comparing VH4 to recto.

Boosting both amps... the VH4 is love/hate with me.
Sometimes i think it's perfect and other times it's really missing the mark.

VH4


2Ch Rectifier (Racktifier)
 
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Adam Jones with Tool uses this amp to great effect but he uses it with another amp like a Rectifier and a Super Bass. Also he has pedals in front of the VH4 including a Boss Flanger and EQ. He runs multiple Amps at the same time but the VH4 is a core feature of his tone.

If I had a VH4 I would play Tool and nothing else. I have the pedal and it's amazing.
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His is a much older version though, correct? The early versions are much different than the current version from what I’ve read.
 
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His is a much older version though, correct? The early versions are much different than the current version from what I’ve read.
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He has two. The 1996 blue face and the latest one I think. He also has a hot rodded Marshall Super Bass 1976. He uses 3 amps.
 
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