E2 Preamp?

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Egnater should finish the E2. It was brought up and mentioned, hyped up before the tweaker, new tweaker coming out, Renegade etc etc. While I understand the overseas amps may be doing well, they should finish the E2 as a top priority. Who knows, it may be, but there has been but a peep from Egnater about it, so really its kinda like the lost project.
 
I'd just love to buy an E2...scale my rig down considerably (can remove a switcher and the M4) :-)
 
I believe E2 is designed to work with other amps loops ..
IMO here lies the problem there are to many different loop styles too many different amps to be able to do this successful .I would bet that is the issue.is
He could have easily just released a 2 module MIDI controlled preamp ..but why when there was the M4
 
gtr31":yv350iw9 said:
I believe E2 is designed to work with other amps loops ..
IMO here lies the problem there are to many different loop styles too many different amps to be able to do this successful .I would bet that is the issue.is
He could have easily just released a 2 module MIDI controlled preamp ..but why when there was the M4


pretty easy, assuming that there are a ton of efx units and what not that work with amps loop. I think the delima was in the switching or something. But yeah, I personally wouldn't mind a 2 slot preamp, I mean thats still 4 channels.
 
Audioholic":1m73r2qh said:
gtr31":1m73r2qh said:
I believe E2 is designed to work with other amps loops ..
IMO here lies the problem there are to many different loop styles too many different amps to be able to do this successful .I would bet that is the issue.is
He could have easily just released a 2 module MIDI controlled preamp ..but why when there was the M4


pretty easy, assuming that there are a ton of efx units and what not that work with amps loop. I think the delima was in the switching or something. But yeah, I personally wouldn't mind a 2 slot preamp, I mean thats still 4 channels.

Yep...MIDI switching issues last I heard. At the last winter NAMM, the unit stopped switching via MIDI IIRC. I think it's important to realize that in regards to the E2, it really doesn't have a whole lot of proprietary Egnater circuitry in it other than the modules. He has always sourced out the MIDI design, Midi boards and such to Mario @ Axess and later Digital Music Corp. The looper circuit was DMC (GCX) as well so I'm told. Who knows how their production capabilities are impacting any of this. It goes without saying that we all would love the E2 to be a reality, but it isn't. It's a great concept. But, you know what they say about the best laid plans...... :no:
 
Last year at the amp shop show John said that it was all done and RJM had fixed all the midi stuff :confused: Guess it really wasn't or it just got scrapped???
 
This has been posted a few times over the past few months.

Bruce Egnater
3047 West 12 Mile Road
Berkley, MI 48072
248-541-9100
bruce@egnater.com



The success of all the new Egnater products over the past couple of years has been amazing and overwhelming at the same time. The demands required to make this all happen has made it almost impossible for us to continue hand building the modular products as we have been for almost 10 years. For this reason, I have decided to take the manufacturing outside of our small shop in Berkley, Michigan. This decision does not come easy and without careful consideration of all the options. So, please accept this letter as official confirmation that the Egnater Modular products will no longer be hand built by Terri, Ian and Myself but will be produced by an outside contract manufacturer. Of course, I will continue to have complete control over every phase of design, production and quality. The good things that will come out of this are that the Modular products will be much more readily available and will have the worldwide exposure that never existed in the past. I will also be updating some features as well as adding a few cool new things to every model. At this time, we are completely sold out of M4 preamps. Those will not be available again until the new production takes place later this year. We do have a quantity of MOD50 heads available that we are hand building right now. These will be the last of the “hand built” ones available. Once they’re gone, they’re gone. We will also be reintroducing an updated version of the MOD100 and will finally have the E2 preamp become a reality later this year. My hope is that the expanded production and worldwide distribution will bring the Modular amps and preamps into the hands of players who previously found Egnater Modular difficult or impossible to purchase or just too expensive. I sincerely thank all of you who have remained “Eggie” fans and supporters for all these years. The future looks bright for Egnater as we move into this new phase of “Global” domination.

Thanks

Very Best Regards,
Bruce Egnater

9/22/10................
I am sorry some of you feel you have been desserted. It is difficult to keep everyone informed all the time. In the above paragrahs, I did state the new modular would be out later this year. In fact it will be early 2011. As far as this thread, I am not going to address each "dig" individually. I will say that some of you believe that I no longer care about my customers or what we build as long as I get those "big GC checks" in the mail. Egnater is not like other "larger" companies. I personally design, prototype, test, sample etc.etc. every product we make. If you think I somehow hang out all day and collect the cash while neglecting my customers, let me say "this could not be farther from the truth" and I actually do find this a little hurtful. Our very small Egnater team works very hard to keep up with all the good and bad things that happen everyday. I personally work day and night to keep bringing new designs to you. The modular line, E2 included, will be re-introduced in good time with new features and a lower price. A detail no one really understands is that the Modular products are very specialzed and not for everyone. It was mentioned that modular is "huge". In fact, the opposite is true. Modular is not as well known as you might think because the production volume has always been quite small as is the distribution and number of dealers. Egnater has a different business model than many other companies you mentioned (Bogner, Soldano, etc.). True my friends, Reinhold and Mike, do continue to produce their US made lines while offering the foreign made models. The difference between them and Egnater is that my name is on the product. They have the resources of other larger companies like Line 6 and JetCity, Egnater is basically on our own to make everything happen. I am personally involved with our overseas manufacturing on a daily basis and you have no idea the amount of time required to make all this happen.

OK, this is not for sympathy or even hoping to make you understand but, let me assure you I do care very much about all my customers. All companies need to have their "bread and butter" products that sell well to keep everyone employed. The Tweakers, Rebels etc. are those products. Modular, Armageddon, Vengeance are all expensive, limited production models that will probably not have near the distribution of the less expensive models. Unfortunately, the amount of time and money required to design, produce and distribute those limited models far exceeds the effort to produce all the other smaller, less compicated models. I'm sorry if some of you feel because I don't post frequent "updates" that I don't respect you. I do come to rig-talk every day and try to respond to questions and issues to the best of my ability. I am not asking for you to "cut me some slack". I am asking that you understand that I run my company, my home and my family just like everyone else. Not that it matters but I do not live in a big, fancy house or drive expensive cars. I work very hard everyday just like those who would condemn how I do things. We all do the best we can, because that's all we can do........
 
Sorry for the small hijack -

Bruce: will the "revamped" 2011 modular line and E2 play nice with the pre-existing USA modular series stuff?
Can you divulge what changes are going to be made to the 2011 modular line to differentiate it from the "old" modular stuff? :)

That's all - thanks!
 
bruce egnater":2z568lfw said:
.....let me assure you I do care very much about all my customers.

I never doubted this, Bruce. You have always been prompt in replying to my questions and threads.

Overall, that was a great little "State of the Union" address above. I wish you nothing but the best and look forward to seeing some new products in the new year!

:rawk:
 
Wonder what the price point of the mass produced modular line will be ?
 
That's great news Bruce! I look forward to the new products
 
marvcus":sfsgrkj8 said:
Sorry for the small hijack -

Bruce: will the "revamped" 2011 modular line and E2 play nice with the pre-existing USA modular series stuff?
Can you divulge what changes are going to be made to the 2011 modular line to differentiate it from the "old" modular stuff? :)

That's all - thanks!

I would say with 99.99999999999999999999999% certainty that any new modular line products produced outside of the actual Egnater headquarters (i.e. overseas) will undoubtedly work with the current production gear. This is a no brainer. The current stuff has already been produced and chances are very good that a MOD50 from China will be the same as a MOD50 from here in terms of parts and design. The amount of time and overall devotion to quality could slip though.

As for what changes to expect, who knows. It could be something as simple as updated parts or maybe even just more offerings given some of the mods that have taken place. Really, the modules that are out there now are proven designs, so aside from some part upgrades, I can't see any reason why Bruce would change them. So maybe he'll just have a couple tweaks and some new modules. Regardless, I wouldn't expect him to give any information on this until 2011 sometime when he's closer to release. No sense in saying you are going to do something and then having deadlines slip or whatever. Better to just work at it and when you know you're ready, let the people know too.
 
I think the biggest change you'll see will be the name of the module will no longer be hand written.
 
Well well well...I cant believe what a hornets nest I've stirred up here.

I am stoked Bruce replied and squashed the cries of the broken.

I love my Engater M4 preamp and really push Eggie products. I gig out multiple X's per month and everywhere I go I am a spokesperson for the product. I've seen people purchase amps as a result, though not modular. I've yet to run into anyone who even knows about, let alone has invested in, an M4 preamp or Mod50/100 as many of us here have. So I am gad the modular product is going to get exposure a and hopefully better pricing due to mass production.

When the E2 Does come out I will buy one to build a smaller rig and might even keep the M4 unit. Love this stuff.

:rock:
 
oshuwah":1dsyf6o2 said:
Well well well...I cant believe what a hornets nest I've stirred up here.

I think it needed to be stirred up a little. :D
 
I luv the mod stuff and plan to get an E2….. The M4 with a RT2/50 rocks.

Maybe outsourcing will be good for getting more modules :D Im still waiting on my JC120 Solid State design to come out :thumbsup:
 
Curious as to where they'll be made and more importantly, what will be the spec of the important parts like transformers which play an important part in tone. Will they still be the same US made high quality ones and then shipped to the manufacturer for assembly?

I'm new to Egnater but Bruce really seems like a stand up guy based on all the posts I've read by him...I can't wait to see what new modular stuff comes out...
 
hisclimb":10148haf said:
Curious as to where they'll be made and more importantly, what will be the spec of the important parts like transformers which play an important part in tone. Will they still be the same US made high quality ones and then shipped to the manufacturer for assembly?

I'm new to Egnater but Bruce really seems like a stand up guy based on all the posts I've read by him...I can't wait to see what new modular stuff comes out...
It's a preamp not a power amp so there should be no transformers.
 
I was referring to the modular amps which Bruce referenced in his post...
 
i'm looking forward to the e2 to finally get a really great ac30 tone in my arsenal, and probably a bassman or superlead module for some OG love. it should integrate and work perfectly with my TOL 100.

love the guru eggie's tone toys!
 
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