Ear Candy Cabinets STOLE MY MONEY... BEWARE

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guitarslinger":2yvnpb3f said:
Tiffany @ Lopoline cabs is a dream with whom to deal. They will build anything for CHEAP!

Emperor cabs seems cool when it comes to customer service too!

+10!

Tiffany is a total peach, GREAT experiences with Lopoline! :thumbsup:
 
I'm not here to take sides but i DO find this a little strange.

I bought 2 ear candy cabs from Tim years ago before he even had such long wait times. They were build to order and I had them in under a month; we had good communication back and forth, everything was dandy. The cabs were awesome!!!

Sorry to hear about what's going on, I do hope both you and Tim figure this out and everything gets squared.
 
bump for people to know douchebaggery...

Todd is good people! He has been great to do transactions with!

On HC, Tim @ Ass Candy Cabinets gave out a false refund transaction #. Does anybody know if this is CC-Fraud? I am not sure, but I'm leaning towards yes maybe? I know I sure as hell wouldn't do it!

Get'em todd!
Josh
 
joshsage":1z8anwi0 said:
bump for people to know douchebaggery...

Todd is good people! He has been great to do transactions with!

On HC, Tim @ Ass Candy Cabinets gave out a false refund transaction #. Does anybody know if this is CC-Fraud? I am not sure, but I'm leaning towards yes maybe? I know I sure as hell wouldn't do it!

Get'em todd!
Josh
Thanks Josh. You're good people too. :thumbsup:
 
joshsage":3906k7tq said:
bump for people to know douchebaggery...

Todd is good people! He has been great to do transactions with!

On HC, Tim @ Ass Candy Cabinets gave out a false refund transaction #. Does anybody know if this is CC-Fraud? I am not sure, but I'm leaning towards yes maybe? I know I sure as hell wouldn't do it!

Get'em todd!
Josh
wow, that's just lame. I thought about getting one of their cabs at one point, but the stories about wait times made me reconsider. Glad I didn't go with them now after reading this, I'd probably still be waiting for my cab. :gethim:
 
Update to the transaction # that Tim at Ass Candy gave me. Tim said that he refunded $528.99 on my Visa on January 21, 2008 and even gave the transaction #.

I talked with the bank yesterday about this. They say that there has been nothing from Ear Candy and nothing matches the $528.99 amount. They said the transaction # does them no good, because it is a number his bank would have. I posted on HC for Tim to come forward with his bank's name and phone number so I could call them. AMAZING, so far there has been no response from Tim.

Tim, if you're reading this.......

I think it's funny that after all of this you still have not contacted me to try to resolve the issue. Instead you send people, or create new accounts yourself under fictitious names, here to ATTEMPT to fight your battles for you.

I will say that if you know you've screwed up the best thing you can do is come out in public and say "Yes, this did all happen. It was a mistake on my part. However I do want to clear it all up with Todd." I really think you will be better received than going about it the way that you are right now. Everybody makes mistakes. It takes a man to admit it. The true coward and crook will blame everyone else until they are beaten into submission or go to jail. Many crooks still blame everyone else while sitting in prison.

Judging by past experiences with Tim I feel like I'm dealing with the latter. He's really good at pointing the finger at others and making excuses any time he fails. I think that pisses me off as much as anything. I'm actually a VERY reasonable person, UNTIL you fuck me over and then say I'm a liar. I have MANY Good Deals with people all over the US and I would say that EVERY ONE OF THEM would say that I was straight up with them and delivered EXACTLY what they thought they were getting.

Todd
 
Update to the transaction # that Tim at Ass Candy gave me. Tim said that he refunded $528.99 on my Visa on January 21, 2008 and even gave the transaction #.

I talked with the bank yesterday about this. They say that there has been nothing from Ear Candy and nothing matches the $528.99 amount. They said the transaction # does them no good, because it is a number his bank would have. I posted on HC for Tim to come forward with his bank's name and phone number so I could call them. AMAZING, so far there has been no response from Tim.

Tim, if you're reading this.......

I think it's funny that after all of this you still have not contacted me to try to resolve the issue. Instead you send people, or create new accounts yourself under fictitious names, here to ATTEMPT to fight your battles for you.

I will say that if you know you've screwed up the best thing you can do is come out in public and say "Yes, this did all happen. It was a mistake on my part. However I do want to clear it all up with Todd." I really think you will be better received than going about it the way that you are right now. Everybody makes mistakes. It takes a man to admit it. The true coward and crook will blame everyone else until they are beaten into submission or go to jail. Many crooks still blame everyone else while sitting in prison.

Judging by past experiences with Tim I feel like I'm dealing with the latter. He's really good at pointing the finger at others and making excuses any time he fails. I think that pisses me off as much as anything. I'm actually a VERY reasonable person, UNTIL you fuck me over and then say I'm a liar. I have MANY Good Deals with people all over the US and I would say that EVERY ONE OF THEM would say that I was straight up with them and delivered EXACTLY what they thought they were getting.

Todd

Todd

I would seriously just keep some of this ranting to yourself untill you take him to court. Not sure what you mean by Tim sending people here to defend him, if you are insinuating that those who said they had good dealings were some how plants from Tim, well, that is kinda crazy. I get that you are frustrated, but dude, its 500 some bucks, let a court decide in your favor rather then ranting on the net and writing long letters to a manufacturer on various guitar sites hoping that he will some how read it and be struck with conviction suddenly. Once again If YOU are being taken to court by Tim for public defacing, you are not helping your case, actually make it worse for you by further ranting about Tim. Let a court decide for you dude, get your money back the legal way and let justice be served and then post back on what happened.
 
Moshaholic":frcvffft said:
On another nother note.... WTF do people go with and constantly talk about and buy all this non main stream crap from these closet garage amp and cab builders as if this is was the only way to get a great 4x12 or 2x12 cab or amp...???

I have been playing for ages and IMO if you can't get a Mesa, Bogner, VHT or some other main stream cab to make you happy tone wise then WTF???



I actually sort of agree with this. Not that I would ever discourage a small business startup trying to offer a new product but I think many of these things are over-hyped and people put too much faith in these small poorly run shit businesses(Fab amps anyone?).

Even if the product was great which it very well may be....the business aspect would just ruin it for me and it's not worth the risk. But that's just me.
 
Audioholic":2vn0mlco said:
Update to the transaction # that Tim at Ass Candy gave me. Tim said that he refunded $528.99 on my Visa on January 21, 2008 and even gave the transaction #.

I talked with the bank yesterday about this. They say that there has been nothing from Ear Candy and nothing matches the $528.99 amount. They said the transaction # does them no good, because it is a number his bank would have. I posted on HC for Tim to come forward with his bank's name and phone number so I could call them. AMAZING, so far there has been no response from Tim.

Tim, if you're reading this.......

I think it's funny that after all of this you still have not contacted me to try to resolve the issue. Instead you send people, or create new accounts yourself under fictitious names, here to ATTEMPT to fight your battles for you.

I will say that if you know you've screwed up the best thing you can do is come out in public and say "Yes, this did all happen. It was a mistake on my part. However I do want to clear it all up with Todd." I really think you will be better received than going about it the way that you are right now. Everybody makes mistakes. It takes a man to admit it. The true coward and crook will blame everyone else until they are beaten into submission or go to jail. Many crooks still blame everyone else while sitting in prison.

Judging by past experiences with Tim I feel like I'm dealing with the latter. He's really good at pointing the finger at others and making excuses any time he fails. I think that pisses me off as much as anything. I'm actually a VERY reasonable person, UNTIL you fuck me over and then say I'm a liar. I have MANY Good Deals with people all over the US and I would say that EVERY ONE OF THEM would say that I was straight up with them and delivered EXACTLY what they thought they were getting.

Todd

Todd

I would seriously just keep some of this ranting to yourself untill you take him to court. Not sure what you mean by Tim sending people here to defend him, if you are insinuating that those who said they had good dealings were some how plants from Tim, well, that is kinda crazy. I get that you are frustrated, but dude, its 500 some bucks, let a court decide in your favor rather then ranting on the net and writing long letters to a manufacturer on various guitar sites hoping that he will some how read it and be struck with conviction suddenly. Once again If YOU are being taken to court by Tim for public defacing, you are not helping your case, actually make it worse for you by further ranting about Tim. Let a court decide for you dude, get your money back the legal way and let justice be served and then post back on what happened.

Who else is thinking Judge Judy?! :rock: I would stay home and watch it!
 
Moshaholic":o5gzlv6p said:
I made one attempt at buying an amp from a non main stream amp builder and the entire experience was the worst ever from start to finish including taking longer than promised, shitty packing, poor quailty, lame excuses, greedy customer service ethics to right out complete theft at the end of it all...


Not the the Titan is it? That surprises me to hear if so.
 
Todd is a great guy. We were thinking about trading amps one time and he offered to MAIL ME HIS JUST TO SEE IF I LIKED IT! This was one of the first conversations I had w/ the guy too.... So don't knock him for being pissed off and unreasonable, b/c he is a very reasonable guy! I dont know anything about the YouTube comments, so I wont comment on that, but I would definitely be pissed as well if this happened to me...

:rock:
 
Neuro":11xmgwc0 said:
Todd is a great guy. We were thinking about trading amps one time and he offered to MAIL ME HIS JUST TO SEE IF I LIKED IT! This was one of the first conversations I had w/ the guy too.... So don't knock him for being pissed off and unreasonable, b/c he is a very reasonable guy! I dont know anything about the YouTube comments, so I wont comment on that, but I would definitely be pissed as well if this happened to me...

:rock:


I agree that I would be upset too no doubt. But if someone is threatning to take me to court for ranting over the internet and tarnishing his rep, the LAST thing I would do is continue to do so, posting on various sites LONG passages about how horrible Tim is etc etc. I get the being upset part, and I get the wanting to warn others part. I am sure Todd is a good guy like he says, unless you tick him off like he says. I just think that after a few comments, and postings, one should just do things via court and let them decide the outcome, that seems to be a much more productive route, and then post back on what an actual legal system decided. After someone continues to curse and swear and compare someone to this or that repeatedly, I just lose interest and makes me think that perhaps there IS another side the story you know. Just being honest.
 
ranalli":2x35xxu7 said:
Moshaholic":2x35xxu7 said:
On another nother note.... WTF do people go with and constantly talk about and buy all this non main stream crap from these closet garage amp and cab builders as if this is was the only way to get a great 4x12 or 2x12 cab or amp...???

I have been playing for ages and IMO if you can't get a Mesa, Bogner, VHT or some other main stream cab to make you happy tone wise then WTF???



I actually sort of agree with this. Not that I would ever discourage a small business startup trying to offer a new product but I think many of these things are over-hyped and people put too much faith in these small poorly run shit businesses(Fab amps anyone?).

Even if the product was great which it very well may be....the business aspect would just ruin it for me and it's not worth the risk. But that's just me.
If the dude cant afford to give a refund, I think he will have a hard time paying for a lawyer. As long as tim is sticking to the facts, he has nothing to worry about. Thats the cost of doing business. To many talanted builders out there have no business sense. I think there are people out there that have either sent amps to builders for mods years ago or put deposits on new amps years ago, and are still waiting.
 
Neuro":2cj473o2 said:
Todd is a great guy. We were thinking about trading amps one time and he offered to MAIL ME HIS JUST TO SEE IF I LIKED IT! This was one of the first conversations I had w/ the guy too.... So don't knock him for being pissed off and unreasonable, b/c he is a very reasonable guy! I dont know anything about the YouTube comments, so I wont comment on that, but I would definitely be pissed as well if this happened to me...

:rock:
Thanks Neuro. That's how I try to treat everybody. I try to treat everybody the way I want to be treated. Well, until they fuck me over........ THEN :codeak:
 
With all do respect to audio, I don't think this is going to go to any courts. In most area's taking someone to small claims court for 500.00 bucks is a waste. If Todd is telling the truth, then he'll never be punished for defamation. If what Todd is saying is true, then it seems very suspcious regarding the refund stuff. Everyone in business will tell you, they know exactly who they give refunds to and would immediately and vigariously defend themselves if they truly did refund him his money. If it was just a mistake, why wouldn't ear candy just call him and work it out? Based on the few complaints I'd think twice before ordering his product. There is no excuse for bad customer service (I'm a business owner) and even if you have a great product, bad service can kill you. Reminds me of the Cameron controversies...
 
The problem here is that we are only hearing one side you know. According to Todd, Tim said he paid the refund and had a transaction number, but Todd said he didn't yet. I seriously don't expect Tim to come here and defend himself as I have never seen him on this site or others to be honest, so really as of now its all one sided, and its really hard to know for sure all the facts as a third party observer. Just based on personal experience, knowing that 2 people can see the same situation completly different, that is why an unbiased 3rd party is needed such as a court. Either way, continued bad mouthing will get Todd no where, certainly not his money back. I would take it to court.


I don't have a stake one way or another, just as of now, with personal experience, we are only hearing one side, and while I empathise with the plight, the more ranting and name calling isn't earning more empathy from me you know.


Having known quite a few people who have bought an ear candy cab, I have never heard of them NOT receiving a cab. Took longer sure, but not once have I heard people say they got stiffed. Waiting longer then expected is a whole nother topic really.


I seriously doubt Tim would take him to court too, but you never know, I mean if he is trashing him repeatedly on multiple sites and what not, you just never know.
 
scottosan":2h0l8mt1 said:
ranalli":2h0l8mt1 said:
Moshaholic":2h0l8mt1 said:
On another nother note.... WTF do people go with and constantly talk about and buy all this non main stream crap from these closet garage amp and cab builders as if this is was the only way to get a great 4x12 or 2x12 cab or amp...???

I have been playing for ages and IMO if you can't get a Mesa, Bogner, VHT or some other main stream cab to make you happy tone wise then WTF???



I actually sort of agree with this. Not that I would ever discourage a small business startup trying to offer a new product but I think many of these things are over-hyped and people put too much faith in these small poorly run shit businesses(Fab amps anyone?).

Even if the product was great which it very well may be....the business aspect would just ruin it for me and it's not worth the risk. But that's just me.
If the dude cant afford to give a refund, I think he will have a hard time paying for a lawyer. As long as tim is sticking to the facts, he has nothing to worry about. Thats the cost of doing business. To many talanted builders out there have no business sense. I think there are people out there that have either sent amps to builders for mods years ago or put deposits on new amps years ago, and are still waiting.



Actually I do take part of that back. Not all builders/modders low key shop guys are as incompetent as some of the stories I've seen over the years. I'd be lying if I didn't have a great experience with JerryP and a few other guitar shop guys....but I must say that those guys are BY FAR in the minority seems like. Too many flakes who don't have an ounce of business sense, get in over their head, then blame the customers with some incoherent bad grammar rant.
 
Audioholic":2kpucvhv said:
Either way, continued bad mouthing will get Todd no where, certainly not his money back. I would take it to court.
I think the negative attention and added pressure may INDEED help Todd get his money back.
 
toddf007":1pf30x0b said:
I think it's funny that after all of this you still have not contacted me to try to resolve the issue. Instead you send people, or create new accounts yourself under fictitious names, here to ATTEMPT to fight your battles for you.

Todd

It's kind or desperate to start accusing anyone who actually received a cab from Earcandy of actually being Tim. :confused:

Once again, sorry you didn't get your cab or your refund. Hope you can resolve this.
 
toddf007":my0oefyk said:
Update to the transaction # that Tim at Ass Candy gave me. Tim said that he refunded $528.99 on my Visa on January 21, 2008 and even gave the transaction #.

I talked with the bank yesterday about this. They say that there has been nothing from Ear Candy and nothing matches the $528.99 amount. They said the transaction # does them no good, because it is a number his bank would have. I posted on HC for Tim to come forward with his bank's name and phone number so I could call them. AMAZING, so far there has been no response from Tim.

Tim, if you're reading this.......

I think it's funny that after all of this you still have not contacted me to try to resolve the issue. Instead you send people, or create new accounts yourself under fictitious names, here to ATTEMPT to fight your battles for you.

I will say that if you know you've screwed up the best thing you can do is come out in public and say "Yes, this did all happen. It was a mistake on my part. However I do want to clear it all up with Todd." I really think you will be better received than going about it the way that you are right now. Everybody makes mistakes. It takes a man to admit it. The true coward and crook will blame everyone else until they are beaten into submission or go to jail. Many crooks still blame everyone else while sitting in prison.

Judging by past experiences with Tim I feel like I'm dealing with the latter. He's really good at pointing the finger at others and making excuses any time he fails. I think that pisses me off as much as anything. I'm actually a VERY reasonable person, UNTIL you fuck me over and then say I'm a liar. I have MANY Good Deals with people all over the US and I would say that EVERY ONE OF THEM would say that I was straight up with them and delivered EXACTLY what they thought they were getting.

Todd

Why have you not yet disputed this with your CC company? Fuck, I would have after six months, especially with the runaround. Stop dealing with Tim and deal with them; they're the only people who have the legal muscle to get you your money back.

Heck, report his business to the BBB.

-Russ
 
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