Eddie’s Frankenstein into his number 1 Marshall. New solo

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I feel about the same as you guys. The music isn't for me, it leans way too hard into Radio Rock, but the guy's clearly got talent and the solo was great. Great playing, great tone in that solo, which I ended up fast forwarding to after a few minutes.

A seven minute by-the-numbers "verse, chorus, verse, chorus" Radio Rock song that never really goes anywhere gets pretty tedious. If it doesn't have a bunch of unique Prog-type parts or isn't telling some long but specific story you can easily follow, keep it under 4.
 
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JackBootedThug said:
Oh fuck you got me with that….sorry homie….lol
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I love all forms of Music i just like to Bust the Balls of Metal Heads that's all. I get a lot of shit cause i once said i like to listen Testament over Metallica.
 
PBGas said:
I really like his music and no complaints here! Great that he is using his Dad's gear to keep the magic going!
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I like the second album. First album
Was very much his influences thst I wasn’t into . Now he’s got more new influences coming out I enjoy . That’s his problem . His basically shows his influences each song
 
I wouldn't take his cds for free. He's talented, blah, blah. Some will like it, buy his cds, go to his shows, but to a guy who came up in the 70's, let's just say if I posted my actual opinion, I'd get jumped.
That said, his soloing is very boring. Idea, pause, idea, pause.....rinse and repeat. Whereas his dad, instead of pausing, would throw in G-string horse winnies. Who cares what amp he used.
 
The One said:
I love all forms of Music i just like to Bust the Balls of Metal Heads that's all. I get a lot of shit cause i once said i like to listen Testament over Metallica.
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I’m not ghey but I love prince, seal, Brian Adams and the band from Texas that wear wigs and play funk…..
 
JackBootedThug said:
I’m not ghey but I love prince, seal, Brian Adams and the band from Texas that wear wigs and play funk…..
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Me too. One of my favorite artist is a guy named Marc Broussard & another dude based in Tampa named Kristopher James. I'll listen to them and hang out with Kristopher while listening to NOFX & Transition from that to Cannibal Corpse The Bleeding.
 
That was the song that got me to check out the album, I’m a sucker for an ear worm and that dude can write some good ones.

Then that solo came up and I was like, “Fuck YES!” Not because of any flashy playing or technical prowess, I can’t care less about that shit these days. It had feel, there’s intent that, despite the pauses, does not reflect someone cluelessly wandering around the neck. There’s a bunch of Vai-ish phrasing in there that caught the Vai nerd in me right away, as well.

And it sounds fucking GREAT!

While the album is a modern production, I fucking love it. Those are real drums you’re hearing and if they put samples over them, it was done VERY tastefully because when you crank it on a good system, you can hear that kick drum breathing after the beater hits it and it varies throughout the song, no amount of programming velocities can make that happen that naturally.

What really got me was not that he plays each instrument, I’ve been doing that for over a decade for my own music, but how well he plays each instrument. There’s a total Danny Carey drum groove in “Optimist” that no guitarist-who-plays-a-little-drums is going to come up with, that’s a “I spent time learning how to legit play drums and my feet don’t give a fuck what the other one is doing” groove you come up with when your influences are guys like Copeland and Carey.

Dude’s got a great sounding voice and a killer range. I don’t dig all the songs, but the ones I do dig I dig a lot. And hell, the first few years I was writing originals, I just wanted to write shit that sounded like Alice In Chains. I had to flush all that out of me before I started writing anything not wearing my influences on my sleeve. I’ll be stoked to follow this dude for a while.
 
The One said:
Me too. One of my favorite artist is a guy named Marc Broussard & another dude based in Tampa named Kristopher James. I'll listen to them and hang out with Kristopher while listening to NOFX & Transition from that to Cannibal Corpse The Bleeding.
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You ever listen to enya? That Orinoco album was killer back in the day….
 
Solo sounded good.... if that is 12301 it's cool to hear it played by someone other than Ed. Ted Nugent said years ago he played Ed's setup at a soundcheck when VH was opening up for him and he claimed it just sounded like him playing through Ed's amp. But there are an awful lot of Marshall's variaced with publicized equipment that Ed used getting spot on Ed tone.

Ed supposedly played 12301 on 2012's ADKOT album, but I don't remember what song it was supposed to be.

I really have to say I don't think there are too many secrets left regarding Ed's first album tone....but that's just my opinion.
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
Well, the kid can play I will give him that. His tunes are modern and catchy enough too. I hate the production on the drums though. Total ear fatigue for me listening to that clicky bass drum and that popping snare.

Great tone on the lead but I wonder, is that pushed with something? Doesn't sound like variac squish so I wonder if he got a little him on the floor for that.
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I’m with you. def sounds different than Eddie, and it’s more than the fingers. No squish and more gain. Not knocking it, I just didnt get an eddie tone vibe
 
RevDrucifer said:
That was the song that got me to check out the album, I’m a sucker for an ear worm and that dude can write some good ones.

Then that solo came up and I was like, “Fuck YES!” Not because of any flashy playing or technical prowess, I can’t care less about that shit these days. It had feel, there’s intent that, despite the pauses, does not reflect someone cluelessly wandering around the neck. There’s a bunch of Vai-ish phrasing in there that caught the Vai nerd in me right away, as well.

And it sounds fucking GREAT!

While the album is a modern production, I fucking love it. Those are real drums you’re hearing and if they put samples over them, it was done VERY tastefully because when you crank it on a good system, you can hear that kick drum breathing after the beater hits it and it varies throughout the song, no amount of programming velocities can make that happen that naturally.

What really got me was not that he plays each instrument, I’ve been doing that for over a decade for my own music, but how well he plays each instrument. There’s a total Danny Carey drum groove in “Optimist” that no guitarist-who-plays-a-little-drums is going to come up with, that’s a “I spent time learning how to legit play drums and my feet don’t give a fuck what the other one is doing” groove you come up with when your influences are guys like Copeland and Carey.

Dude’s got a great sounding voice and a killer range. I don’t dig all the songs, but the ones I do dig I dig a lot. And hell, the first few years I was writing originals, I just wanted to write shit that sounded like Alice In Chains. I had to flush all that out of me before I started writing anything not wearing my influences on my sleeve. I’ll be stoked to follow this dude for a while.
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I don't disagree with anything you said but the drum sample part. With SD3 it is easy to replace your hit with a sample that matches the velocity. Convert your audio to midi and boom 💥 done. Matches your playing velocity .
 
The One said:
Me too. One of my favorite artist is a guy named Marc Broussard & another dude based in Tampa named Kristopher James. I'll listen to them and hang out with Kristopher while listening to NOFX & Transition from that to Cannibal Corpse The Bleeding.
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The Bleeding and Bloodthirst are the masterpieces of death metal
 
CarlF said:
I wouldn't take his cds for free. He's talented, blah, blah. Some will like it, buy his cds, go to his shows, but to a guy who came up in the 70's, let's just say if I posted my actual opinion, I'd get jumped.
That said, his soloing is very boring. Idea, pause, idea, pause.....rinse and repeat. Whereas his dad, instead of pausing, would throw in G-string horse winnies. Who cares what amp he used.
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Thanks to samples digital mixing, everything has become vanilla standard. I also agree with you that a lot of 70's bands were bringing it. They had to play it in time and there was no grid to fix it too. There were a lot of interesting ideas and grooves coming out of the 70's and 80's in many genres. I am a huge ABBA fan, take a listen to those bass lines isolated. They ain't no joke, the bass was killing it! Sometimes in modern music, I can't tell the difference between the bass and guitar.
 
Techdeth said:
The Bleeding and Bloodthirst are the masterpieces of death metal
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They absolutely are. I LOVE anything CC Has done. One of my other favorites is Solstice that had Rob Barrett Singing & Playing Guitar for them. I also Love Hate Plow.
 
CarlF said:
I wouldn't take his cds for free. He's talented, blah, blah. Some will like it, buy his cds, go to his shows, but to a guy who came up in the 70's, let's just say if I posted my actual opinion, I'd get jumped.
That said, his soloing is very boring. Idea, pause, idea, pause.....rinse and repeat. Whereas his dad, instead of pausing, would throw in G-string horse winnies. Who cares what amp he used.
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The "Idea... pause..." is a little thing called "Phrasing".
 
geetarmikey said:
The "Idea... pause..." is a little thing called "Phrasing".
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I forced myself to re-listen. He's a good player. Solo starts off well enough, but the tapping and that open string noodling, which goes on too long, I can't listen.
Also, is the whole album produced like this? It sounds like brickwalled noise. Ear fatiguing.
 
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