Electric

[harddriver]

So keep defending the precious petro for your rich rulers, clown

And you think your RICH RULERS don't have a hand in the electric power generation industries decommissioning baseload, nuclear, coal, natural gas traditional power plants that can handle the current load and barely at that right now with EV's only having a market share of 6% of all car sales pulling off the grid.

You clearly haven't considered all the issues pertaining to EV's.

What happens when all the baseload power plants have been shut down and only solar and wind and a few peaker natural gas units are left and the country is say 50% electric....That's if the grid can even stay up. How are you going to charge your car when the entire grid goes down in a brownout or blackout? Your home solar units will not satisfy the current draw to charge your EV car.

Our current nuke fleet will almost have to be shutting down in the next ten to 15 years due to the age of the reactor vessels unless they continue to give life extensions on the licenses, (but that is an accident waiting to happen) and the only new ones that have been built are Vogtle 3&4 in Georgia.

 

[CrazyNutz]

I'm not the clown promoting it though

Yeah you're the clown promoting big oil propaganda

 

[CrazyNutz]

How are you going to charge your car when the entire grid goes down in a brownout or blackout? Your home solar units will not satisfy the current draw to charge your EV car.

Yes they will, especially if you have a battery system in your home PV system. Which is becoming increasingly popular.

And as far as current draw, have you ever used a home charging station? You can configure it to draw what ever current you want, or what your system can handle.

 

[CrazyNutz]

Face it guys, we're going EV, you can try to will it out of existence, but it wont change a thing. You'll eventually get into, or even drive an EV then you'll start to understand.

Until then keep pounding your fists on the table hoping it'll all fail

 

[Krull]

Face it guys, we're going EV, you can try to will it out of existence, but it wont change a thing. You'll eventually get into, or even drive an EV then you'll start to understand.

Until then keep pounding your fists on the table hoping it'll all fail

Yeah let us know when you actually get one

 

[Krull]

Yeah you're the clown promoting big oil propaganda

You're promoting EV propaganda

 

[harddriver]

Enjoy starving when gas and diesel fuel is outlawed in your Utopia while you're eating ZE BUGS because the EV tractors and trucks can't run 12-16 hours a day planting and harvesting.

 

[Krull]

Don't forget governments will eventually be taxing EV mileage because they aren't paying gas taxes anymore

 

[CrazyNutz]

Enjoy starving when gas and diesel fuel is outlawed in your Utopia while you're eating ZE BUGS because the EV tractors and trucks can't run 12-16 hours a day planting and harvesting.

Psst they can make battery packs that are removable, and a fresh charged ones can be in place on the machine in minutes.

Also charging can be done during shift changes, in less than an hour. This is how electric forklifts work.

Crazy how all those warehouses function with electric forklifts everywhere. Over 60% of forklifts are electric these days

TAHDAH :

 

[harddriver]

When you park an EV in your garage CrazyNutz let us know!

 

[CrazyNutz]

When you park an EV in your garage CrazyNutz let us know!

I have many thousands of Wh's in lithium batteries in my garage, and through out my house already. What's little more?

 

[harddriver]

And as far as current draw, have you ever used a home charging station? You can configure it to draw what ever current you want, or what your system can handle.

And more than likely what would have been an 8 hour charge when the current draw is lowered the length of time to get a full battery charge would most definitely increase to 24 hours or more.

Here's a new study for you to read.
https://www.texaspolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023-10-TrueCostofEVs-BennettIsaac.pdf

 

[JohnnyGtar]

Face it guys, we're going EV, you can try to will it out of existence, but it wont change a thing. You'll eventually get into, or even drive an EV then you'll start to understand.

Until then keep pounding your fists on the table hoping it'll all fail

A hundred years ago, they'd be saying that the Horse and Buggy was preferable to those newfangled gas powered autos.

 

[Wetordry]

Gas prices are dropping around here.

 

[Ben Waylin]

A hundred years ago, they'd be saying that the Horse and Buggy was preferable to those newfangled gas powered autos.

History is filled with events from the past.

 

[JackBootedThug]

if they get the shit lined out and it's affordable and reliable I'm down. I would rock the fuck out of that cybertruck.

 

[Philo Beddoe]

Economics and convenience of EV

From the US DOT website..

"Level 2 chargers can charge a BEV (totally electric vehicle) to 80 percent from empty in 4-10 hours."

"Direct current fast charging (DCFC) equipment can charge a BEV to 80 percent in 20 minutes to 1 hour."

More interesting: "Over time, heavy use of DC charging can degrade battery health. Using Level 1 or Level 2 charging as your default method, and reserving DC charging for longer trips, is one way to prolong an EV battery’s life."

They are saying a 4-10 hour recharge is best for the battery's.

Every time the DC fast charging option is used you are degrading the battery's faster than the other two ways.

Not sure how 4-10 hour recharge times would be considered a "convenience"?

 

[CrazyNutz]

From the US DOT website..

"Level 2 chargers can charge a BEV (totally electric vehicle) to 80 percent from empty in 4-10 hours."

"Direct current fast charging (DCFC) equipment can charge a BEV to 80 percent in 20 minutes to 1 hour."

Not sure how those times are "convenient".

More interesting: "Over time, heavy use of DC charging can degrade battery health. Using Level 1 or Level 2 charging as your default method, and reserving DC charging for longer trips, is one way to prolong an EV battery’s life."

They are saying a 4-10 hour recharge is best for the batterys.

Every time the DC fast charging option is used you are degrading the batterys faster than the other two ways.

Alright, man. Here's the thing everyone is missing. You're going to pull into your garage, and plug it in. LOL

Most peoples car sit idle in the driveway, or garage for a long period of time.

 

[Philo Beddoe]

You're going to pull into your garage, and plug it in. LOL

You are assuming people have a garage to pull it into. A lot don't..

You are also talking about level 1 chargers..

From the same website..

Level 1 equipment (chargers) provides charging through a common residential 120-volt (120V) AC outlet. Level 1 chargers can take 40-50+ hours to charge a EV to 80 percent from empty.

40-50+ hours? Up to two days or more to recharge your EV? Yeah, No.

Why are hybrids overlooked. A hybrid would be much more practical to live with.

 

[CrazyNutz]

You are assuming people have a garage to pull it into. A lot don't..

You are also talking about level 1 chargers..

From the same website..

Level 1 equipment (chargers) provides charging through a common residential 120-volt (120V) AC outlet. Level 1 chargers can take 40-50+ hours to charge a EV to 80 percent from empty.

40-50+ hours? Up to two days or more to recharge your EV? Yeah, No.

Why are hybrids overlooked. A hybrid would be much more practical to live with.

You can charge outside in your driveway too. Also you can use 220v just like a dryer outlet for faster charging.

None of this is difficult. Many people at my work have tesla's, and none of this is a problem.

Pull up at home, plug your car in. No more gas station stops

BTW most people at my work don't care about the environment, they bought it for the convenience, and savings.