Ever listen to famous isolated guitar solos?

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Definitely interesting to hear some of these without everything behind them

 
I saw a video of ozzy listening to Randy’s solos isolated and it was pretty killer.
 
Kirk is an enigma to me. His solos on the early stuff are so creative and musical to me. But he doesn’t seem to be a very good player at all. I’m listening to the video and kinda humming along to it…then I think damn…that sounds kinda rough. And I’m not a pimple on his ass as far as playing guitar. Just an observation imo…
 
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Parts of it sound doubled. I really don’t understand those who say that modern music is too perfect, then complain about previously undetectable imperfections revealed in iso tracks.
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Yeah I imagine it was pulled out by one of those ai services.

True that, it’s interesting the progression over time with recording and all that stuff. Many harp on modern music being too perfect, and tools being used to get a certain sound. The way things are today though if your drum tracks aren’t damn near to a grid it won’t get any sort of listens other than by the people that made it and maybe some friends. Drum triggering people really hate on too even though it’s been done literally forever by people making their own samples and just putting it on weak hits. Some things I think are over the top, like playing note by note, half speed etc. I think this hinders a band because they can’t pull it off live at all. But, there are some musicians who are just THAT good out there. It is pretty far and few between. An example would be Shannon Lucas all that remains, black dahlia murder. Dude would rip through songs perfectly on a single take, truly incredible. Trigger his kicks by playing a totally stuffed kick drum and triggering it, but who cares? Guy is PERFECT live.

People who hate on punch ins and stuff though? GTFOH
 
JackBootedThug said:
Kirk is an enigma to me. His solos on the early stuff are so creative and musical to me. But he doesn’t seem to be a very good player at all. I’m listening to the video and kinda humming along to it…then I think damn…that sounds kinda rough. And I’m not a pimple on his ass as far as playing guitar. Just an observation imo…
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He doesn't make it easy to be a long time fan. I really like a lot of the leads he wrote on most everything from the black album back...

But his only job for several decades now has been to play guitar for the same band. It would occur to most people at some point, to spend a little time with a metronome and work to be a more solid player than the local bar bands covering your tunes.
 
JackBootedThug said:
Kirk is an enigma to me. His solos on the early stuff are so creative and musical to me. But he doesn’t seem to be a very good player at all. I’m listening to the video and kinda humming along to it…then I think damn…that sounds kinda rough. And I’m not a pimple on his ass as far as playing guitar. Just an observation imo…
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I'm with you..he probably had hundreds of bum takes on the black album but then he hits the one that just works. Yeah his vibrato sucks most of the time but he used to be able to play what was needed for the songs. That's long gone though, probably been mailing it in over 20 years now. He's definitely a sloppy player though. His picking is pretty horrendous in that clip too but you notice way less in the mix.
 
Kirk is objectively awful.

All the guy has to do is work on solos. He is set up to be a KING. Biggest band that is active. Just work on 10 or so songs every 5 years. Jesus fucking Christ. He blows it.
 
Bram576 said:
Yeah I imagine it was pulled out by one of those ai services.
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Most of the 'raw' stuff around is ripped from old Guitar Hero games. Typically the original multitrack was revisited, and a manageable number of pre-mixed 'stems' created to allow the users of the game to mute drums, solo guitars etc.

What you hear is usually not exactly as it was on tape, it could be eq'd, FX added etc. to emulate the mixed and mastered final version. There's also typically lots of submixing going on, e.g. 8 tracks of rhythm guitars could be printed off as one stereo stem.
 
Guitar solo's out of context from the song always sounds like random noodling to me.
 
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I think the fun thing about listening to solos with no backing tracks is how you can hear all the little nasty stuff that all the other parts in the mix cover up. You can hear how raw guitar actually sounds, especially on older tracks (e.g. pre-ProTools) when everything wasn't super compressed and limted into block waves. The players were actually pretty sloppy by modern standards, and there's a lot of high end bite and cut with very restricted lows; the sounds are almost thin. It's interesting how our brains put extra frequencies we're hearing from other instruments or even cognitive biases into the guitar sound, leading us to "hear" things/tones that aren't really there and not hear other things/tones that actually are.
 
As I read these posts it’s really like I understand nothing , mainly because I don’t record . What I have figured out is a lot of folks are real good at layering , patching , editing, recording etc. That being said I have bought a lot of gear that didn’t quite sound like the recording.

I can also say do to the nature of recording and the music business I’ve seen some bands that were real shitty live!!
 
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