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[steve_k]

Along with what Tim said up there, the key word may be "Traditional". I am finding that the sales pitch associated with "oversized cab" isn't everything it is cracked up to be. They have their places, the amp and speaker combination that works well with them. In general though, there's more tweaking to be done with a traditional size cab and the cab being more responsive over a large cab. With less dead volume behind the speakers, in the box, this has a huge impact on the tone that comes out the front. I have 412 Afterburners and 2 Mesa Recto's, that I would not have bought if I had known then, what I know now.

Steve

 

[thegame]

Along with what Tim said up there, the key word may be "Traditional". I am finding that the sales pitch associated with "oversized cab" isn't everything it is cracked up to be. They have their places, the amp and speaker combination that works well with them. In general though, there's more tweaking to be done with a traditional size cab and the cab being more responsive over a large cab. With less dead volume behind the speakers, in the box, this has a huge impact on the tone that comes out the front. I have 412 Afterburners and 2 Mesa Recto's, that I would not have bought if I had known then, what I know now.

Steve

Hmmm.....so you find 29x29x14" cabs to work best for you ?

 

[steve_k]

Yes, but let me put it in a different way. I find it is easier for me to use a traditional cab with possibly some speaker changes and get a great response for all amps. Whereas, with an over-sized cab, there are many amps that I can never get an acceptable response with. Usually, the failure is not being able to dial up enough mids/highs to overcome the emptiness and bottom-end.

Steve

 

[Oz Hofstatter]

Yes, but let me put it in a different way. I find it is easier for me to use a traditional cab with possibly some speaker changes and get a great response for all amps. Whereas, with an over-sized cab, there are many amps that I can never get an acceptable response with. Usually, the failure is not being able to dial up enough mids/highs to overcome the emptiness and bottom-end.

Steve

Agree Steve!
I think standard's size cabinet more "friendly" than oversize. Of course is a matter of taste, but looks like nowadays the guitar players like more and more bass when play.
Anyone have some experience with the Port City 4x12 Standard Size?
Cheers,
Oz

 

[Jay Strange]

Yes, but let me put it in a different way. I find it is easier for me to use a traditional cab with possibly some speaker changes and get a great response for all amps. Whereas, with an over-sized cab, there are many amps that I can never get an acceptable response with. Usually, the failure is not being able to dial up enough mids/highs to overcome the emptiness and bottom-end.

Steve

This is exactly why I sold the Mills AB.

 

[steve_k]

Yes, but let me put it in a different way. I find it is easier for me to use a traditional cab with possibly some speaker changes and get a great response for all amps. Whereas, with an over-sized cab, there are many amps that I can never get an acceptable response with. Usually, the failure is not being able to dial up enough mids/highs to overcome the emptiness and bottom-end.

Steve

This is exactly why I sold the Mills AB.

Yep, which is why I am stuck with a load of cabs now

Shipping them back to the US to sell would be a HUGE PITA as shipping would be the price of the cab. I need to find someone in Europe to take them away. I battled with this for a while, then I wised up and figured out what the problem was. Being hard-headed, I had to see for myself though!

Steve

 

[Jay Strange]

Same here bro!! Being hard headed about the cabs.
I also went through this with modern type guitars for heavy stuf...Alsways returning to Les Pauls!!

Actually after I sold the Mills, I got the FL Uberkab which was exactly what I was looking for
in a modern crunchbox

 

[jcj]

Yes, but let me put it in a different way. I find it is easier for me to use a traditional cab with possibly some speaker changes and get a great response for all amps. Whereas, with an over-sized cab, there are many amps that I can never get an acceptable response with. Usually, the failure is not being able to dial up enough mids/highs to overcome the emptiness and bottom-end.

Steve

Absolutely mirrors my experience. I'll pass on anything over-sized.

 

[steve_k]

Same here bro!! Being hard headed about the cabs.
I also went through this with modern type guitars for heavy stuf...Alsways returning to Les Pauls!!

Actually after I sold the Mills, I got the FL Uberkab which was exactly what I was looking for
in a modern crunchbox

Got two of them coming

 

[James Lugo]

I got a pair of FL Twin Jet straight cabs, love them. v30/g75. Beautiful balance and record great.

 

[steve_k]

Yes, but let me put it in a different way. I find it is easier for me to use a traditional cab with possibly some speaker changes and get a great response for all amps. Whereas, with an over-sized cab, there are many amps that I can never get an acceptable response with. Usually, the failure is not being able to dial up enough mids/highs to overcome the emptiness and bottom-end.

Steve

Absolutely mirrors my experience. I'll pass on anything over-sized.

Inquiring minds cost a lot of fuckin money don't they Josh?

Looks like the PT should be stateside already, shows leaving Germany yesterday. Being close to LAX, it should move pretty quick. With all the terrorist shit going on with cargo planes, stuff gets checked out thoroughly now leaving the region.

Steve

 

[ttosh]

Yes, but let me put it in a different way. I find it is easier for me to use a traditional cab with possibly some speaker changes and get a great response for all amps. Whereas, with an over-sized cab, there are many amps that I can never get an acceptable response with. Usually, the failure is not being able to dial up enough mids/highs to overcome the emptiness and bottom-end.

Steve

Absolutely mirrors my experience. I'll pass on anything over-sized.

Inquiring minds cost a lot of fuckin money don't they Josh?

Looks like the PT should be stateside already, shows leaving Germany yesterday. Being close to LAX, it should move pretty quick. With all the terrorist shit going on with cargo planes, stuff gets checked out thoroughly now leaving the region.

Steve

I had a couple of Mesa OS 4x12 that sounded good with a few amps, but similar experience could not get them to feel or sound right with others. Switched to Mesa Traditional 4x12 with V30s and so far I have not found an amp they have sounded bad with. Thought about switching out and trying some Scumbacks or other speakers, but they sound good, cut good and the tone chase is already expensive enough as is.