Gibson-Sanctioned Mark IIC+ Old vs New Comparison Video coming

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Hey all,
Since there is so much discussion around the new Mark IIC+ amps (someone even tagged me in another thread) I figured I would stop by and let you all know;
I just got off of a long call with the folks at Gibson Marketing. We were discussing some Mesa video stuff on my channel, when I let them know I currently have 2 different versions of the Mark IIC+ amps at my studio that were graciously loaned to me by the owner, a viewer of my channel.

When I revealed this, the marketing guy got VERY excited, and asked me ifn I would be willing to do a direct comparison video of the old vs new amplifiers. I said "sure, as long as you guys are ok with that?" Comparison videos, I have found, can be a touchy subject with some companies who aren't confident in their products.

The market guys said, "NO. This is EXACTLY what we want. We are supremely confident in these new amps, and we welcome anyone to try a direct comparison to an original". With that said, we ended the call, and he started scrambling for a dealer close. to me. He found one, N Stuff Music in Pittsburgh.

As of now, they are going to send us a sample amplifier from their own stock for us to compare later this week. There will be some videos on both my channel, as well as N Stuff's channel. For all of you guys that hate me, N Stuff has a guy play in their videos that can actually play, so I'd say to check their videos out once they release. https://www.youtube.com/@NStuffMusic/videos

I will be doing one of my standard amp playthrough videos, as well as a 2 part blind test video. First part will be the truly blind test, where we record a number of riffs and play them back to back from each amp without telling the audience which amp is which. The second part or video #2 will be the reveal of which amp is which, and a direct unmasked comparison.

I personally feel like this is the best way to do it to take personal bias out of the equation for the viewers, so that's what I want to roll with. I'll keep you all up to date on the status of filming and when the videos will be released. Hopefully, this will answer the questions of the people who actually have an open mind.
 
Kyle... Please use different cabs as part of the comparison... 8 Ohm + 16 Ohm. Bogner 16 Ohm if you still have it.


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Bad.Seed said:
Hey all,
Since there is so much discussion around the new Mark IIC+ amps (someone even tagged me in another thread) I figured I would stop by and let you all know;
I just got off of a long call with the folks at Gibson Marketing. We were discussing some Mesa video stuff on my channel, when I let them know I currently have 2 different versions of the Mark IIC+ amps at my studio that were graciously loaned to me by the owner, a viewer of my channel.

When I revealed this, the marketing guy got VERY excited, and asked me ifn I would be willing to do a direct comparison video of the old vs new amplifiers. I said "sure, as long as you guys are ok with that?" Comparison videos, I have found, can be a touchy subject with some companies who aren't confident in their products.

The market guys said, "NO. This is EXACTLY what we want. We are supremely confident in these new amps, and we welcome anyone to try a direct comparison to an original". With that said, we ended the call, and he started scrambling for a dealer close. to me. He found one, N Stuff Music in Pittsburgh.

As of now, they are going to send us a sample amplifier from their own stock for us to compare later this week. There will be some videos on both my channel, as well as N Stuff's channel. For all of you guys that hate me, N Stuff has a guy play in their videos that can actually play, so I'd say to check their videos out once they release. https://www.youtube.com/@NStuffMusic/videos

I will be doing one of my standard amp playthrough videos, as well as a 2 part blind test video. First part will be the truly blind test, where we record a number of riffs and play them back to back from each amp without telling the audience which amp is which. The second part or video #2 will be the reveal of which amp is which, and a direct unmasked comparison.

I personally feel like this is the best way to do it to take personal bias out of the equation for the viewers, so that's what I want to roll with. I'll keep you all up to date on the status of filming and when the videos will be released. Hopefully, this will answer the questions of the people who actually have an open mind.
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I buy from NStuff. They've been my go-to for discounted gear, and no tax. Great people!
 
Good on you. This will be a ton of work so kudos up front.

I just hope the amp you are getting is not being taken from someone-else' pre-order. Didn't sound that way, just sayin'

Good luck :yes:
 
Good stuff Kyle. Glad to hear someone who plays thrash riffs is going to demo this thing.
 
311splawndude said:
Good on you. This will be a ton of work so kudos up front.

I just hope the amp you are getting is not being taken from someone-else' pre-order. Didn't sound that way, just sayin'

Good luck :yes:
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Luckily it's not! We specifically discussed that and Gibson said they're def. going to send a unit from their stock to avoid an angry customer, haha.
 
Bad.Seed said:
Hey all,
Since there is so much discussion around the new Mark IIC+ amps (someone even tagged me in another thread) I figured I would stop by and let you all know;
I just got off of a long call with the folks at Gibson Marketing. We were discussing some Mesa video stuff on my channel, when I let them know I currently have 2 different versions of the Mark IIC+ amps at my studio that were graciously loaned to me by the owner, a viewer of my channel.

When I revealed this, the marketing guy got VERY excited, and asked me ifn I would be willing to do a direct comparison video of the old vs new amplifiers. I said "sure, as long as you guys are ok with that?" Comparison videos, I have found, can be a touchy subject with some companies who aren't confident in their products.

The market guys said, "NO. This is EXACTLY what we want. We are supremely confident in these new amps, and we welcome anyone to try a direct comparison to an original". With that said, we ended the call, and he started scrambling for a dealer close. to me. He found one, N Stuff Music in Pittsburgh.

As of now, they are going to send us a sample amplifier from their own stock for us to compare later this week. There will be some videos on both my channel, as well as N Stuff's channel. For all of you guys that hate me, N Stuff has a guy play in their videos that can actually play, so I'd say to check their videos out once they release. https://www.youtube.com/@NStuffMusic/videos

I will be doing one of my standard amp playthrough videos, as well as a 2 part blind test video. First part will be the truly blind test, where we record a number of riffs and play them back to back from each amp without telling the audience which amp is which. The second part or video #2 will be the reveal of which amp is which, and a direct unmasked comparison.

I personally feel like this is the best way to do it to take personal bias out of the equation for the viewers, so that's what I want to roll with. I'll keep you all up to date on the status of filming and when the videos will be released. Hopefully, this will answer the questions of the people who actually have an open mind.
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Imagine these DEI motherfuckers send you not a standard serial amp but specially tweaked/custom built one to make it not look bad compared to the OG. That would crack me up 😂

If you can, secretly open it up/take pictures to make sure it is same as standart. Just in case 😂
 
CrystalSky said:
Imagine these DEI motherfuckers send you not a standard serial amp but specially tweaked/custom built one to make it not look bad compared to the OG. That would crack me up 😂

If you can, secretly open it up/take pictures to make sure it is same as standart. Just in case 😂
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The new 2C+ with the old C+ mod
 
CrystalSky said:
Imagine these DEI motherfuckers send you not a standard serial amp but specially tweaked/custom built one to make it not look bad compared to the OG. That would crack me up 😂

If you can, secretly open it up/take pictures to make sure it is same as standart. Just in case 😂
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I think you guys think these companies are A LOT more nefarious, and overall, COMPETENT than they actually are. Haha

If you got a peak behind the curtain at the stuff I get to see from most of these companies, I think a lot of the myths and mystery behind these companies would quickly die.
 
CrystalSky said:
Imagine he opens and it’s ptp with old components and an rusty ol’ trusty pt105 inside 😂
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Bruh I'm dying.

In all honesty I would love and I think many others would also love to see the guts.

Can't say but I would imagine companies don't want their donor amp being opened up and tampered with but damn what a controversy that would be.
 
Bad.Seed said:
I think you guys think these companies are A LOT more nefarious, and overall, COMPETENT than they actually are. Haha

If you got a peak behind the curtain at the stuff I get to see from most of these companies, I think a lot of the myths and mystery behind these companies would quickly die.
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Well, you can always give me a call and tell me the stories you witnessed. I would be greatly interested 🤘🏻

I mean Gibson QC alredy shows us what these companies are, I hardly believe others are much different overall.

To this day I remember the video Jason(Headfirst) made about lack of grounding on a 4k bucks “boohteek” amp. No illusions here 😂
 
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