Gibson-Sanctioned Mark IIC+ Old vs New Comparison Video coming

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Bruh I'm dying.

In all honesty I would love and I think many others would also love to see the guts.

Can't say but I would imagine companies don't want their donor amp being opened up and tampered with but damn what a controversy that would be.
Psst, the companies don’t need to know. Like at all. Let them go screw themselves and oil eachother with this living failure dinesh 😂

He can post it under other acc, he can forward them to someone else to post as a part of fake customer review. Possibilities are limitless 😉
 
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Psst, the companies don’t need to know. Like at all. Let them go screw themselves and oil eachother with this living failure dinesh 😂

Ge can post it under other acc, he can forward them to someone else to post as a part of fake customer review. Possibilities are limitless 😉
Was gonna say, nuke this thread and do eeeeit. If they back out then we know.

Seriously though I doubt Mesa/Gibson would be that stupid. They have to know by now that the amp will be heavily criticized and looked over in depth by many.
 
Was gonna say, nuke this thread and do eeeeit. If they back out then we know.

Seriously though I doubt Mesa/Gibson would be that stupid. They have to know by now that the amp will be heavily criticized and looked over in depth by many.
Judging by all these years of regression I think both Mesa and Gibson are as stupid as it gets.

They keep fucking up all the best they ever had lol
 
Love the idea of a blind test. Would be even cooler if you just never revealed the answer

Good idea, the minute you reveal, then everybody piles in with …
“I knew it. I knew it, Amp B sounds so much more blah, blah blah”.

😑
 
Good idea, the minute you reveal, then everybody piles in with …
“I knew it. I knew it, Amp B sounds so much more blah, blah blah”.

😑
There could be a poll. Where if your guess is wrong then you are shamed for life on Rig Talk and have a special avatar.
 
Good idea, the minute you reveal, then everybody piles in with …
“I knew it. I knew it, Amp B sounds so much more blah, blah blah”.

😑
We need it done here, with uneditable answers. That must be a series of comparison scenarios too. All knobs at noon, gain to max, same particular settings, trying to match both to the same sound/tone, trying to adjust both amps to their best sound/tone are some of those scenarios I would like to see. All in a controlled fashion with a volume measuring device set up to ensure the volume is the same during those scenarios, not to alter perception.
 
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I'd be interested to watch this; having owned an OG 2C+, a studio pre, a mk3, 4 and 5 I expect the video will reveal that old marks - even reissued ones -sound more similar than different and many will prefer the reissue to the OG in a blindfold test.
 
Not sure if this was part of the blind test plan, but if you'd be willing to BE the blind tester and have someone else plugging you in to the comparison amps...and you make the guesses in the video...this would be an awesome way to showcase if the "feel" differs enough to be singled out!

I'm guessing the recorded tones will be very close, but it's the in room tones and feel that everyone is ravenous about.
 
Not sure if this was part of the blind test plan, but if you'd be willing to BE the blind tester and have someone else plugging you in to the comparison amps...and you make the guesses in the video...this would be an awesome way to showcase if the "feel" differs enough to be singled out!

I'm guessing the recorded tones will be very close, but it's the in room tones and feel that everyone is ravenous about.
Totally agreed. If possible. :yes:


I think you guys think these companies are A LOT more nefarious, and overall, COMPETENT than they actually are. Haha
Agreed. But I also agree that the Day 1 demo drop didn't go over well :lol:

Unless you told me that they did that on purpose to build up a frenzy :dunno:

If you got a peak behind the curtain at the stuff I get to see from most of these companies, I think a lot of the myths and mystery behind these companies would quickly die.

That alone deserves its own thread. What a great Christmas present to Rig-Talk :yes:
 
Also, for reference, here are the two models that I am currently borrowing that will appear in the video. I know it matters as there are a bunch of variations.
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So what really went down at sweetwater? Did they blindside you and not really let you adjust the settings or what.!?! What a terrible idea if that happened because we all know that amp sounded anemic but you Ben and Fluff didn’t want to be dicks and tell them it sucked right to their face!
 
So what really went down at sweetwater? Did they blindside you and not really let you adjust the settings or what.!?! What a terrible idea if that happened because we all know that amp sounded anemic but you Ben and Fluff didn’t want to be dicks and tell them it sucked right to their face!
I can only speak for myself, but basically we walked into a room not knowing what we were playing. The guys at Gibson had the amp set up a certain way, but apparently other people started messing with the controls while they were playing with it, so by the time I personally got to it, it was basically on the clean channel. I asked Dinesh if I could dial it in a bit and he said absolutely, but I've never actually played or set up controls on a IIC+ so i was trying to apply MArk IV logic to the controls. At one point I did get it sounding pretty gnarly, but that part didn't make the SW cut.

Talking to the SW guys, they took the public feedback on the video to heart (in a good way, they were understanding) and pulled it down. I don't know their exact reasoning, or whether they are retooling the edit or not. Honestly no idea.
 
I can only speak for myself, but basically we walked into a room not knowing what we were playing. The guys at Gibson had the amp set up a certain way, but apparently other people started messing with the controls while they were playing with it, so by the time I personally got to it, it was basically on the clean channel. I asked Dinesh if I could dial it in a bit and he said absolutely, but I've never actually played or set up controls on a IIC+ so i was trying to apply MArk IV logic to the controls. At one point I did get it sounding pretty gnarly, but that part didn't make the SW cut.

Talking to the SW guys, they took the public feedback on the video to heart (in a good way, they were understanding) and pulled it down. I don't know their exact reasoning, or whether they are retooling the edit or not. Honestly no idea.
Thanks for the clarity. Seems so weird.
 
I can only speak for myself, but basically we walked into a room not knowing what we were playing. The guys at Gibson had the amp set up
How upset would you have been if they were like, behold: this is the new 100 watt solid state head that captures the BEST of three of our most famous amps....
 
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