rsm
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Splawn Quickrod 100
If I can get everything I need out of two channels, which I could with the V, Ch 1 and 2, including high gain of all flavors etc; I don’t care if the amp has even 4 channels. As long as I get what I’m looking for. I love the idea of a well designed single channel amp that has great variety within simple changes (I have 4 of those, including an 80’s Pro tube Laney which would be another recommendation) …but at the end of the day, if I’m looking for a certain thing and CH 2 of some 3-4 channel, mini toggle, infested nightmare gets me there, I’ll use it. How many people have an Engl Savage or the like and dial in one heavy gain and never use anything else but the solo boost? Diezel VH4 users who never leave CH 3.Sounds quite plausible. For whatever reason I'm more intrigued by single channels and if I had to have more than one two would be the most I'd want. I'd rather just throw a boost in the rhythm channel than have a third channel. I know it's a first world problem/neurotic thing, but I'm honestly annoyed my mark vii has 3 channels and I don't like any of the choices of the third channel. That's why I liked my v35 as it had two channels that I could do so much with
If you can make an 800 sound like a Wizard, I would go that route.I mean I wouldn't consider working with 4k a money issue, but I also have a family/just got married, etc, so a wizard is not going to be a right choice especially with the unknown of returning it if it doesnt do It for me. I also 'know' that the tone can be achieved with say a jcm800, but I'm not exactly sure how. I mainly only heard wizards in doom contexts and as much as I like doom, I'm not into my amp sounding like it's about to blow up and although my model t is cool, it's not 'the one'
I really like my Marshall JVM. Covers a lot of ground. Here’s a video from my dinky studio.
While you don't have to get it stupid loud, it's definitely an amp that needs some volume behind it to really get your moneys worth. It isn't a hard amp to dial in at all, the simplicity is part of the charm.I think I'm definitely going to if not soon later on.
I don't disagree listening to that, but that amp has way too much going on for me. It's not as bad, but reminds me of the reason I bought and sold an ax fx, Kemper and quad cortex. I don't have enough time in my life to dial in a million things or do I need more than 1 or two channels. I like to keep things simple and make them complicated with my pedal board if need be. Although my pedal board is likely pretty basic honestly.
Sounds great . This amp gets really good sounds . The need a roar button to make it open for loud live player .
Yeah, it's a bit much to look at, with four channels, three modes per channel and independent EQ and gain for each channel.
But if you want a JCM-ish tone, it's there. If you want a plexi-ish tone, it's there. If you want a Silver Jubilee-ish or a JCM2000 or a JCM900 tone, it's there.
I'm pretty much a set and forget musician. I mean, I like to dabble when I'm at home, but once I've dialled in something I like, I might keep it on that setting for weeks without tweaking.
That said, you seem to really like the Deliverance, and I can recommend the VHT route. I've only tried the Deliverance model on my Axe FX, but I own an Sig:X and it's a great amp. Here's a video.
The Deliverance is even more dry, I believe, so that makes playing it really difficult, so keep that in mind.
I think that might partially be my fault, or rather the fault of my living situation. Can't really hike the volume all that much in my house. But when you do, the amp really opens up.
Problem with that amp, is the ratio way favors the “ish”.Yeah, it's a bit much to look at, with four channels, three modes per channel and independent EQ and gain for each channel.
But if you want a JCM-ish tone, it's there. If you want a plexi-ish tone, it's there. If you want a Silver Jubilee-ish or a JCM2000 or a JCM900 tone, it's there.
Splawn Quickrod 100
Splawn Quickrod 100
I love the jubilee, but i dont think it is what he is describing2203(x) or Jube reissue
That's what I was wondering. The option to change the gain structure really intrigued me. So do you feel like the BE can capture a jcm800, but with way more options tonally? I know I guess the clean is plexi based and from my understanding the other two channels are more or less hot rodded JCM's. Part of me wonders about getting a JCM/clone and getting the Friedman OD delux pedal and calling it a day, but I don't know. If the BE can do a JCM i'd almost feel like a fool to get a JCM over it (as the Ceriatone BE clone is < $1800 IE the cost of a JCM800).All great options
I can tell you that the B100 deluxe with the gain structure on low does kill for that
I’ve thought about selling mine because redundancy but it’s got tons of options and it kills so what’s the point of selling?
I was starting to get curious about a Jubilee as i've heard great and bad about them for what thats worth, but the bad was more so that they are kind of a one trick pony.I love the jubilee, but i dont think it is what he is describing
Yeah, it's a bit much to look at, with four channels, three modes per channel and independent EQ and gain for each channel.
But if you want a JCM-ish tone, it's there. If you want a plexi-ish tone, it's there. If you want a Silver Jubilee-ish or a JCM2000 or a JCM900 tone, it's there.
I'm pretty much a set and forget musician. I mean, I like to dabble when I'm at home, but once I've dialled in something I like, I might keep it on that setting for weeks without tweaking.
That said, you seem to really like the Deliverance, and I can recommend the VHT route. I've only tried the Deliverance model on my Axe FX, but I own an Sig:X and it's a great amp. Here's a video.
The Deliverance is even more dry, I believe, so that makes playing it really difficult, so keep that in mind.
I think that might partially be my fault, or rather the fault of my living situation. Can't really hike the volume all that much in my house. But when you do, the amp really opens up.
Don't know, never got into 800s. Dave recently said a C45 switch gets you closer to the JCM thing on Punish Dave #30 from last week. It's closer to JCM with the C45 on. Ironically, I run mine with the C45 off 90% of the time.That's what I was wondering. The option to change the gain structure really intrigued me. So do you feel like the BE can capture a jcm800, but with way more options tonally? I know I guess the clean is plexi based and from my understanding the other two channels are more or less hot rodded JCM's. Part of me wonders about getting a JCM/clone and getting the Friedman OD delux pedal and calling it a day, but I don't know. If the BE can do a JCM i'd almost feel like a fool to get a JCM over it (as the Ceriatone BE clone is < $1800 IE the cost of a JCM800).
I was starting to get curious about a Jubilee as i've heard great and bad about them for what thats worth, but the bad was more so that they are kind of a one trick pony.
Probably the way I dialled it in. Plus, there’s no boost, and I’m guessing you aim to have one in front of the amp.The Sig:X seems a little subdued in the mid character, but perhaps it's how you have the EQ. I would agree from sound samples the Deliverance seems much drier and more my thing, but i'm someone who will crank the mids on most amps. My Mesa Mark V was very unforgiving as well, but after playing it for 7 years it made me x10 the guitar player, so now something really saturated like an EVH gives me zero pleasure to play, almost like it is too easy and one dimensional. Great for hard stuff(death,black metal and all that), but again I had my fill of that and would rather do the whole stoner/post thing nowadays. I must say I remember seeing the band Jungle Rot and thought they're tone was amazing. They were using dual recs. I talked to them afterwards and they told me they use a reverse smiley face. So they were cranking their mids and scooping out the other frequencies. I had never heard that with deathmetal at the time, but to this day that would be how I would go about it. Unlike Cannibal Corpse I could actually tell what notes they are playing (I know that's not always the point, but that's what I enjoy).