Guilty of 34 felonies

[JohnnyGtar]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-constitution-democracy/616949/

"Dependent on a minority of the population to hold national power, Republicans such as Senator Mike Lee of Utah have taken to reminding the public that “we’re not a democracy.” It is quaint that so many Republicans, embracing a president who routinely tramples constitutional norms, have suddenly found their voice in pointing out that, formally, the country is a republic. There is some truth to this insistence. But it is mostly disingenuous. The Constitution was meant to foster a complex form of majority rule, not enable minority rule.

The founding generation was deeply skeptical of what it called “pure” democracy and defended the American experiment as “wholly republican.” To take this as a rejection of democracy misses how the idea of government by the people, including both a democracy and a republic, was understood when the Constitution was drafted and ratified. It misses, too, how we understand the idea of democracy today."

 

[Floyd Eye]

Please point out where the word "democracy" appears in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution.

We are definitely not a democracy. And the left wing before the 60s would have said the same thing. They only trot it out now because they think they have us outnumbered.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

The US is a constitutional republic, not a ‘democracy’.

Yes, we are constitutional republic, and our form of governance as laid out in the Constitution is representative democracy. If you're allowed to vote, that's democracy, but there are 2 forms of democracy: Representative democracy is where you vote for a representative in Congress and they vote on the issues before them. That is our system of government. Pure or direct democracy is where everyone has a direct vote. That is not our system of government. Details matter.

 

[Floyd Eye]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-constitution-democracy/616949/

"Dependent on a minority of the population to hold national power, Republicans such as Senator Mike Lee of Utah have taken to reminding the public that “we’re not a democracy.” It is quaint that so many Republicans, embracing a president who routinely tramples constitutional norms, have suddenly found their voice in pointing out that, formally, the country is a republic. There is some truth to this insistence. But it is mostly disingenuous. The Constitution was meant to foster a complex form of majority rule, not enable minority rule.

The founding generation was deeply skeptical of what it called “pure” democracy and defended the American experiment as “wholly republican.” To take this as a rejection of democracy misses how the idea of government by the people, including both a democracy and a republic, was understood when the Constitution was drafted and ratified. It misses, too, how we understand the idea of democracy today."

Do you always get your information from The Atlantic ? It’s about as legitimate as getting it from John Stewart or Steven Colbert.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

And that is a ridiculous analogy

Only if you don't like accuracy. Lame dodge on your part, dude.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

Do you always get your information from The Atlantic ? It’s about as legitimate as getting it from John Stewart or Steven Colbert.

No, not at all. I read a variety of viewpoints. That article is accurate whether you like who published it on not.

 

[Geo]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-constitution-democracy/616949/

"Dependent on a minority of the population to hold national power, Republicans such as Senator Mike Lee of Utah have taken to reminding the public that “we’re not a democracy.” It is quaint that so many Republicans, embracing a president who routinely tramples constitutional norms, have suddenly found their voice in pointing out that, formally, the country is a republic. There is some truth to this insistence. But it is mostly disingenuous. The Constitution was meant to foster a complex form of majority rule, not enable minority rule.

The founding generation was deeply skeptical of what it called “pure” democracy and defended the American experiment as “wholly republican.” To take this as a rejection of democracy misses how the idea of government by the people, including both a democracy and a republic, was understood when the Constitution was drafted and ratified. It misses, too, how we understand the idea of democracy today."

Written by the same idiot that says in this video that Russia invaded the Ukraine because the "Russians don't like Ukrainians freedom".

This guy is either CIA plant used to spout their talking points, or a complete idiot.

You think he is right? You listen to this idiot?

 

[JohnnyGtar]

BTW, The Founding Fathers did not design or establish a theocracy.

 

[tallcoolone]

BTW, The Founding Fathers did not design or establish a theocracy.

You would not agree with any of the FF on anything. dude.

 

[Geo]

No, not at all. I read a variety of viewpoints. That article is accurate whether you like who published it on not.

You should be a bit more selective. The Atlantic has been wrong about everything. Or, purposely misleading.

 

[tallcoolone]

Yes, we are constitutional republic, and our form of governance as laid out in the Constitution is representative democracy. If you're allowed to vote, that's democracy, but there are 2 forms of democracy: Representative democracy is where you vote for a representative in Congress and they vote on the issues before them. That is our system of government. Pure or direct democracy is where everyone has a direct vote. That is not our system of government. Details matter.

Then find the word in the US Constitution. The FF despised democracy as I already pointed out above.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

Written by the same idiot that says in this video that Russia invaded the Ukraine because the "Russians don't like Ukrainians freedom".

This guy is either CIA plant used to spout their talking points, or a complete idiot.

You think he is right? You listen to this idiot?

Lame dodge and sloppy thinking on your part.

For the sake of argument, here's a question: If someone is wrong on or more issues, does that make them wrong on all issues?

BTW, he's right on that point. The Russians don't like Ukrainian freedom because they prefer the West as opposed to being under Putin's thumb. Millions of Ukranian refugees went to Western countries.

 

[tallcoolone]

I think @JohnnyGtar is just hypnotized by the media:

 

[JohnnyGtar]

Then find the word in the US Constitution. The FF despised democracy as I already pointed out above.

I already answered the question but apparently you think repeating the same question proves your point. It's doesn't. The founders hated direct democracy and I agree with them.

 

[tallcoolone]

The Russians don't like Ukrainian freedom because they prefer the West as opposed to being under Putin's thumb. Millions of Ukranian refugees went to Western countries.

The entire world has known that the Ukraine is the most corrupt country on the planet for over a decade. I didn't know they had the most Nazis until the past few years tho.

Do you call the Ukraine a 'democracy' too?

 

[JohnnyGtar]

I think @JohnnyGtar is just hypnotized by the media:

You do realize that FOX, Newsmax, OAN, are media, right?

 

[Geo]

BTW, he's right on that point. The Russians don't like Ukrainian freedom because they prefer the West as opposed to being under Putin's thumb. Millions of Ukranian refugees went to Western countries.

That clueless opinion is absolutely wrong.

Let's see, did Russia invade because the Minsk agreement, or the bombing of Ukrainians in the border regions, because the of the USA led removal of an elected president? Nope, because Russia didn't like their freedom.

 

[tallcoolone]

I already answered the question but apparently you think repeating the same question proves your point. It's doesn't. The founders hated direct democracy and I agree with them.

You haven't 'answered' anything. Waiting for your cut and paste from the new yorker next

You do realize that FOX, Newsmax, OAN, are media, right?

Of course. Twitter/X is the only free speech out there. Which is why every lefty hates Musk.

If they get rid of X, they can do whatever they want.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

The entire world has known that the Ukraine is the most corrupt country on the planet for over a decade. I didn't know they had the most Nazis until the past few years tho.

Lots of corruption there, but more corrupt than North Korea, Belarus, most of the Middle East, etc? Please.

 

[Geo]

I think @JohnnyGtar is just hypnotized by the media:

Is JohnnyGtar a parrot?

He must be, because he/she doesn't ever understand the whole story.