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VonBonfire
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You're speculating. I broke my leg today wearing my Nike's. Imagine how bad the break would've been if I hadn't worn them.
TheGreatGreen
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You got it backwards my man.
77 million Trump votes / 350 million people = 22% population. Almost 80% of the population specifically did not vote for Trump.
Also, see all that red? That's not people, that's land. Easy mistake to make. Trump got 77.3 mil votes (49.8%) and Harris got 75 mil (48.33%) = 1.47% difference. Not exactly what I'd call a "landslide" victory lol, even by modern presidential election standards, even though the GOP was quick to call it that because a bunch of blue states couldn't get their shit together to count votes fast enough.
That's blue state DEI hiring for you though.
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VonBonfire
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They do it so their spittle doesn't enter an open wound, not because it stops aerosols.
TheGreatGreen
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It's impossible to know for sure because we can't split the universe into two timelines, with and without the vax, to see what happens on both sides, but if you truly think the vaccine does literally nothing despite all the documented evidence showing how effective it is at scale, I don't know what to tell ya bro.
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VonBonfire
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There is no documented evidence from independent sources. It was a giant cash grab by big pharma and you were the pawn.
TheGreatGreen
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That feels like an unfalsifiable claim. Like I suppose anything I cite you could always just say it's not independent enough and boom, you're still technically right.
As far as me being a pawn, I mean... I didn't pay anything for the vaccine and it hasn't adversely affected me as far as I.... ohhh fuck... bluuueee. must dye my hair bluuuueee and be gay and go listen to NPR.....
Fuck what happened. Where am I?
glpg80
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I posted a NGD in the vintage forum over on TGP when I got my 1976 LPC. I was promptly corrected that it wasn’t vintage due to its age and to have a mod move it out of the vintage forum.
I’ve never been back since. They especially wouldn’t like that I slapped black winters in it tuned to B.
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PhoneyIommi
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These MAGA guys aren't the sharpest tools...
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PhoneyIommi
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Empty land doesn't vote. He won by 1.5%.
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PhoneyIommi
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You have incredible patience.
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VonBonfire
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When everyone is pushing me to take an experimental drug, threatening my employment and ability to travel, I can deduce that coercive tactics have evil, negative intentions. I don't give into coercion, ever. You say it hasn't adversely affected you, but since it was an experiment, you really don't know what you took or what it's long term effects might be.
midnightlaundry
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Nashville Riff Co
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Guys this video will help everyone calm down and relax ok. Please watch so we can all come together now 
TheGreatGreen
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The drug wasn't exactly experimental. It had been mostly in development for about 20 years and was tweaked to fit covid. Also, maybe it's not some conspiracy. Maybe instead we were dealing with a disease that came out of nowhere and fucked up millions of people, that was killing people so fast that they had to bring in refrigeration trucks to store the bodies in cities when the morgues filled up. Then when a vaccine came out (that Trump himself bragged about getting approved in "record time" by the way) people were quick to say "get the fucking vaccine or else we're all gonna die." It was an overreaction in hindsight but you can surely see how people got to that conclusion at the time.
Also, let me propose a hypothetical or two. Suppose big gubmint did want to hit the population with some new drug designed to control us easier or whatever. Why would they bother with the theatrics of a pandemic? Why not just put that shit in our flu shots and breakfast cereal or whatever and do it without telling us?
Second hypothetical. Let's say big gubmint wanted to run some mass experiment and hit us with a drug to control us all. Let's say they like theatrics and release Covid into the world to scare us into getting the drug. Now let's say there are two groups people, one group that is compliant (shitlibs) and the other that is rebellious (conservatives). Welp, looks like only the people getting the drug are ALREADY COMPLIANT (shitlibs) while conservatives skip it. Way to go, gubmint, you just drugged the already-compliant half of the population and the entire population is still just as non-compliant as it was.
If they really wanted to make everybody compliant with some drug, all they'd have to do is tell the non-compliant group they're not allowed to have it and they'd be fighting each other in the streets to get it first.
That isn't what happened, so basically I'm saying the covid vaccine as some means to control people doesn't make sense to me.
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VonBonfire
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"Experimental Use Authorization" is pretty obvious to me.
Theatrics.
Trump is a moron and people are godless cowards now so they lined up to take it out of fear of either disease, loss of employment, or social disapproval from others.
They needed consent. Almost nobody takes flu shots and not everyone eats breakfast cereal.
Except most conservatives were also compliant. My Fox news watching Trump loving neighbor was wearing masks outside and got his shots ASAP, lol. Very few people are willing to swim upstream against cultural currents especially when threats against livelihood are made and friends and family are party to the coercion. They go along to get along.
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PhoneyIommi
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Operation Warp Speed is unequaled and unrivaled anywhere in the world, and leaders of other countries have called me to congratulate us on what we’ve been able to do, and we’ve helped many countries with their ventilators and all of the problems they were having.
And I’d like to congratulate everyone involved in this effort. It’s been an incredible effort. As a result of Operation Warp Speed, Pfizer announced on Monday that its China virus vaccine is more than 90 percent effective. This far exceeds any and all expectations. Nobody thought they’d get to that level. And we have others coming which we think will be at equal level — maybe more, if that’s possible.
In July, my administration reached an agreement with Pfizer to provide $1.95 billion to support the mass manufacturing and distribution of 100 million doses, with the option to purchase a total of 600 million doses shortly thereafter. Our investment will make it possible for the vaccine to be provided by Pfizer free of charge.
Pfizer said it wasn’t part of Warp Speed, but that turned out to be a unfortunate misrepresentation. They are part. That’s why we gave them the $1.95 million — billion dollars. And it was an unfortunate mistake that they made when they said that.
We will work to secure an emergency use authorization, which should be coming down extremely soon. And my administration will then coordinate the distribution of the vaccine, and it will be approved, I think — again, it will be approved very, very quickly, we hope.
The average development timeline for the vaccine, including clinical tests and manufacturing, can take 8 to 12 years. Through Operation Warp Speed, we’re doing it in less than one year. If you had a different administration with different people, what we’ve done would have taken, in my opinion, three, four, five years, and it would have been in the FDA forever.
This is five times faster than the fastest prior vaccine development in history. Five times faster. Say it again: five times faster. Nobody canactually.iit, actually.
- The Stable Jeenyus
And I’d like to congratulate everyone involved in this effort. It’s been an incredible effort. As a result of Operation Warp Speed, Pfizer announced on Monday that its China virus vaccine is more than 90 percent effective. This far exceeds any and all expectations. Nobody thought they’d get to that level. And we have others coming which we think will be at equal level — maybe more, if that’s possible.
In July, my administration reached an agreement with Pfizer to provide $1.95 billion to support the mass manufacturing and distribution of 100 million doses, with the option to purchase a total of 600 million doses shortly thereafter. Our investment will make it possible for the vaccine to be provided by Pfizer free of charge.
Pfizer said it wasn’t part of Warp Speed, but that turned out to be a unfortunate misrepresentation. They are part. That’s why we gave them the $1.95 million — billion dollars. And it was an unfortunate mistake that they made when they said that.
We will work to secure an emergency use authorization, which should be coming down extremely soon. And my administration will then coordinate the distribution of the vaccine, and it will be approved, I think — again, it will be approved very, very quickly, we hope.
The average development timeline for the vaccine, including clinical tests and manufacturing, can take 8 to 12 years. Through Operation Warp Speed, we’re doing it in less than one year. If you had a different administration with different people, what we’ve done would have taken, in my opinion, three, four, five years, and it would have been in the FDA forever.
This is five times faster than the fastest prior vaccine development in history. Five times faster. Say it again: five times faster. Nobody canactually.iit, actually.
- The Stable Jeenyus
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower
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All of this fighting among us reminds me of one thing we have in common; Fuck TGP.
That was my second use, Japetus. PG13!!!!!
That was my second use, Japetus. PG13!!!!!
TheGreatGreen
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The fighting proves we're not like TGP. We can talk and argue about what we want here and not get shut down.
@VonBonfire I think it's clear we're at an impasse here, so I'll just say even though we disagree on some stuff, I still think you're a good dude. You can play my guitar any time (no that's not a gay euphemism I'm not that liberal, damn). Same to @RedB4Black, @MetalHeart, @midnightlaundry and the rest of the homies around these parts I've argued with.
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Beyond Black
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Are you fucking serious? He won by just over 2 million votes, the slimmest victory margin since Carter won in 1976.