Techdeth
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They all are great imo . UU is pick . Though I don’t have one
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braintheory
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This 100%. The early ones were just far superior amps in sound and feel. The Rev C and D Recto's have the same issues with their clean channels as those Uber's. They improved it on the later revisions at the expense of the money channel being not as good. Terrible trade off
Your clips show what I experienced too when AB'ed. The Rev 1 is the fresh squeezed oj with all the delicious nuances and the UU was frozen, concentrated, pasteurized and stripped of all the pulp, freshness and what really it made it great in the first place, just maintaining the flavor still being orange. Really sterile/clinical. To me it was like the Uber flavor was still basically there, but not the overall Bogner flavor really of rich chewiness
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paulyc
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The one version I haven’t seen mentioned is the Twin Jet. What’s the scoop ? Thanks in advance.
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loganflynn294
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Don't forget that Bogner was always tweaking stuff on the earlier revisions; you could a/b a few of them side by side and they could each sound vastly different. That being said, the early Rev2 I have is the nastiest amp I've ever played. Thick, juicy, hairy, pissed off, room filling 3d filth that I can't get out of any other amp. Thought the Ultra would do that and more, but it's a little too "modern" sounding; Like others have said, it's got an upper mids thing going on that definitely cuts through better, but just wasn't my thing. Ultra is definitely better if you're into modern metal or anything really technical. But for brutal detuned chugs, the OG cannot be beat.
PurityS.L.G
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I agree with this post the most. I've owned them all except the first OG model. I equally love my Rev 2 and UU for the reasons mentioned above.
Its universally the least favorite of the Uber family due to the most confusing EQ controls ever on any amp in existence LOL I've owned a shit ton of amps and that's no exaggeration to myself at the least.
When you do figure the amp out, its massive sounding like all the other Ubers however you have to dime the depth to get the low end of the previous models, which is why I believe my boy @braintheory calls the TJ a neuterschall
Again, it has massive bass but you have to blast the depth to get it to that point instead of treading lightly on the bass or depth (UU) with previous models or UU. The shine of the TJ is channel 1. Its an AWESOME modded Marshall channel.
Erock
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I had one that sounded awesome, and convinced a friend(@wtfMagH8U) to try one. At first he was impressed. I moved the head one day, and accidentally moved the controls, and couldn't seem to get it back. Could have been mental, lol. My buddy ended up nicknaming his "fuck that amp", as he was using it live, and ran into the same experience. I would have taken pictures if I knew better. I ended up shipping it to another friend on here, @WizardSouth-JP , and it got burned up in a UPS train derailment.Its universally the least favorite of the Uber family due to the most confusing EQ controls ever on any amp in existence LOL I've owned a shit ton of amps and that's no exaggeration to myself at the least.
When you do figure the amp out, its massive sounding like all the other Ubers however you have to dime the depth to get the low end of the previous models, which is why I believe my boy @braintheory calls the TJ a neuterschall
These days, I wonder if it was just very sensitive to input voltage, as my location can see voltage swings between 117 to 126V any time of day. I regulate now, and can hear/feel the difference.
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stratjacket
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Wow, hmmmm, you all got me thinking more about the Ultra. I had a Rev Blue for about 10 years and slowly fell off as I tried other amps until I sold it about 2 years ago. That kind of put me off the Uber and didn’t really look into them since. This thread has me looking close at the Ultra.
I assume OG = Original GOAT (greatest of all time)? As in the first version is the greatest?
I assume OG = Original GOAT (greatest of all time)? As in the first version is the greatest?
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braintheory
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I recall the Twin Jet having plenty of low end and beef. No complaints there. It’s been admittedly over a decade now since I last tried it, so I could have a different opinion now for sure, but I jokingly called it that more for I remember the tone being not as raw/organic, gritty or aggressive as I like, too smooth/generic/bland in character from what I remember, but I’d need to play it again. I’d agree that I wish the earlier Ubers had that same ch1 than their afterthought clean channelsI agree with this post the most. I've owned them all except the first OG model. I equally love my Rev 2 and UU for the reasons mentioned above.
Its universally the least favorite of the Uber family due to the most confusing EQ controls ever on any amp in existence LOL I've owned a shit ton of amps and that's no exaggeration to myself at the least.
When you do figure the amp out, its massive sounding like all the other Ubers however you have to dime the depth to get the low end of the previous models, which is why I believe my boy @braintheory calls the TJ a neuterschall
Bram576
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I need to get a rev 1 or 2 here and do an AB test micd with my ultra.I agree with this post the most. I've owned them all except the first OG model. I equally love my Rev 2 and UU for the reasons mentioned above.
Its universally the least favorite of the Uber family due to the most confusing EQ controls ever on any amp in existence LOL I've owned a shit ton of amps and that's no exaggeration to myself at the least.
When you do figure the amp out, its massive sounding like all the other Ubers however you have to dime the depth to get the low end of the previous models, which is why I believe my boy @braintheory calls the TJ a neuterschall
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braintheory
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Worth getting. I’d predict similar results comparatively to what MrWoodchuck got in his comparo clip posted earlier here. I suck at recording, but had basically the same results as him when I tried, maybe even a bit more contrast than he got, might be since his is a Rev 2, not sure since I’m less familiar with Rev 2’s
Bram576
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I think he posted his after he sold the ultra which does show them dialed differently, but not attempted to sound the same... if that makes sense. I think going back and forth having them in the room same time especially having an amp switcher changes things dramatically. Especially if you have someone else switching back and forth for you with the volume equalized lol
MrWoodchuck
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Yeah I had it sold but the Uber ultra was on Uber mode in that clip on both the presence and the gain mode on channel 2. Every clip I have heard past that even as recent as Mishas Instagram post last week has the filtered sound to it. It's the only amp I haven't vibed with in 3 years and I love almost everything Bogner.
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braintheory
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When I did my take on them I both compared them trying to sound close to each other as well as just what I felt made them sound to me the best they could and I still got very similar results to MrWoodchuck. Not identical, but very similar and of course I did a real apple to apples comparison in the same room and all. Like him, I just felt the amp inherently sounded for my taste too filtered, synthetic, it just lacked for me richness to the tone the way the first version and most Bogner’s in general have. It was sorta almost like Omega or KSR tried to make an Uber rather Bogner with the ultra imo. Those guys also make amps I find filtered and cardboardy sounding. I like really brutal tones like you do too, but to me those types of amps I don’t interpret as being the most most brutal or aggressive sounds due to those qualities I find undesirable to my ears. If anything I feel it takes away from that. I find the Rev 1 to be a truly brutal amp to me at least
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braintheory
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Same for me. It didn’t really sound or feel like a Bogner to me. It was almost like a brand like KSR or Omega tried to do their take on an Uber with the more modern filtered flavor. The Snorkler on the other hand I really love. That’s 10/10 what the signature Bogner chewy, rich low mid sound is to me. One of my top 4 or 5 currently of high gainers. Not the biggest sounding 50w as its main weakness imo, but the sound and feel is just so good!!
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tonedog
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I have had all of the Ubers and several of different versions. The 6L6 Ultra is the best of all of them for me. I go back to the 6550 proto and first versions with 6550s and then multiples of every version since. For an overall versatile killer Uber, nothing beats the Ultra to me. I also love the Snorkler and Goldfinger Superlead.
MrWoodchuck
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I go through most of the modes on this video if folks who don't have it were curious.
zewango
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Picked up the Ultra love it. Lots of tones in it. I don't play any of the chug stuff in these videos.
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I had a twin jet. I loved it, but it was very Low Mid dominant, as I remember, and very smooth. The UU hits harder and has a more modern voicing yet more raw. I really like the voicing of the amp. I am ok with some cardboard, I suppose.