Intonation for high E string still sharp at 12th fret with saddle all the way back

[simonfrewler]

Everything you are saying points to string issue.

 

[conanthewarrior]

Everything you are saying points to string issue.

OK thank you . I don't have another set of spare strings at the moment so will order some more.

As I said, the guitar was usually rock solid regarding intonation and staying in tune. I will have to put up with this until a new set of strings arrive grrrrr.

 

[simonfrewler]

Another tip is to intonate from the 3 and 15th fret..
Allegedly it gives a better intonation across the whole fretboard.


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[conanthewarrior]

Another tip is to intonate from the 3 and 15th fret..
Allegedly it gives a better intonation across the whole fretboard.


Reference

OK, I have just read this and am trying to get my head around it.

So I would get the 3rd fret in tune, then the 15th, and where they are both slightly out of tune I would tune to in the middle of them so the intonation is more accurate?

I hope I explained that correctly, it made sense in my head at least lol.

 

[simonfrewler]

OK, I have just read this and am trying to get my head around it.

So I would get the 3rd fret in tune, then the 15th, and where they are both slightly out of tune I would tune to in the middle of them so the intonation is more accurate?

I hope I explained that correctly, it made sense in my head at least lol.

Honestly, you don't have to go that Into it...unless you want to get stuck in an intonation/temperament rabbit hole of insanity.

Just do normal intonation as you know it, from the 3rd to the 15th

Most won't notice it.

If it bothers you, you won't be able to unhear it now....and eventually you'll end up with one of those fancy cursive fretboards that you see out there.

So there are 2 roads....simple easy.....or madness.

 

[conanthewarrior]

Honestly, you don't have to go that Into...unless you want to get stuck in an intonation/temperament rabbit hole of insanity.

Just do normal intonation as you know it, from the 3rd to the 15th

Most won't notice it.

If it bothers you, you won't be able to unheard it now....and eventually you'll end up with one of those fancy cursive fretboards that you see out there.

So there are 2 roads....simple easy.....or madness.

I think I will stick with the 12th fret then, as I do easily get obsessed with things, for example I started vaping in 2015 with box mods to quit smoking, I ended up with 42 different mods and over 100 tanks, was on a forum for it and getting free mods sent from China to review. Now I look back and think I was insane, I have all these mods that do pretty much exactly the same thing, why do I need 42?

I will end up intonation "hunting" and constantly hearing out of tune notes, constantly checking and setting it, and probably buying different style bridges and experimenting with different types of strings etc.

I've gone mad with the vapes, so please Conan, don't do this with intonation

 

[anomaly]

Hmm. I'd start with a new set of strings.
You usually don't hear about TOM nashville style bridges running out of intonation room. I've had to flip a saddle around on Les Pauls before for that reason but they were all ABR-1 bridges.

This. New strings.

 

[paulyc]

Honestly, you don't have to go that Into it...unless you want to get stuck in an intonation/temperament rabbit hole of insanity.

Just do normal intonation as you know it, from the 3rd to the 15th

Most won't notice it.

If it bothers you, you won't be able to unhear it now....and eventually you'll end up with one of those fancy cursive fretboards that you see out there.

So there are 2 roads....simple easy.....or madness.

There’s also the EVH tuning offsets. Or the Buzz Feitin system.

 

[Matt300ZXT]

Another tip is to intonate from the 3 and 15th fret..
Allegedly it gives a better intonation across the whole fretboard.


Reference

That's what I used to do, intonate and tune guitars from frets other than open notes.