It’s turning into a buyers market

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psychodave said:
I’m not seeing any changes. The Music Zoo got in three new nitro aged Charvel’s…priced near $4,500-$5,000 each and all three sold within a few days. 🤷
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What you're not seeing is the massive amount of gear being returned to these retailers within the 30 day free return policies..................People are floating these charges on their credit cards trying out gear and then returning it......You can see that mentality has permeated into private sales and Paypal will make you refund an item regardless......... While I understand the buyers wanting some protection from scammers they have ruined private sales by abusing these policies.

I would be afraid to sell anything of considerable value these days via Paypal, you better hope you are dealing with someone honest and just not tirekicking gear that if you are lucky will return your item to you in the same condition you sold it...... if it gets returned at all! And if it is a scammer buyer you may issue your refund and not get your item back at all......it's happened to a few guys on here already........

I have seen a major slowdown in 2023, you can see it in the classifieds here. Identical amps I sold easily on CL in 2022 are not moving at all and what's weird is the Craigslist listings of decent gear have seemed to evaporate to nothing. I guess people are just not listing things. People want that guarantee of returning their purchases up to 90 days after they received it and play the shit out of it or they are just test driving it.

I know it's not popular to hear but it has everything to do with a devaluation of the dollar. Inflation is basically a hidden tax to allow the government free reign to print fiat currency without oversight.
 
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denialist said:
Really, how can you see it? The last I checked it just showed the crossed out list price.
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It only works if Reverb has a category for whatever it is your looking for. The amount of sales history matters too. But to find it, you have to search under Reverbs "official" description. Meaning, that if you're wanting to know what the going rate is on say a Mesa Dual Rec Multi Watt.. you can't just randomly type in "Mesa Multi Watt" to get the past sales history. If you start typing in "Mesa Boogie Dual..." you get all the suggested searches from Reverb:

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Then if you pick one of their searches it'll take you to a kind of "landing page" that will have information about the product:

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That information is a link, and it'll take you to another page that has actual listings and will have all the past sold history at the bottom of the page. It lists the date of the sale, the condition as listed and what it sold for without shipping:

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War_in_D said:
It only works if Reverb has a category for whatever it is your looking for. The amount of sales history matters too. But to find it, you have to search under Reverbs "official" description. Meaning, that if you're wanting to know what the going rate is on say a Mesa Dual Rec Multi Watt.. you can't just randomly type in "Mesa Multi Watt" to get the past sales history. If you start typing in "Mesa Boogie Dual..." you get all the suggested searches from Reverb:

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Then if you pick one of their searches it'll take you to a kind of "landing page" that will have information about the product:

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That information is a link, and it'll take you to another page that has actual listings and will have all the past sold history at the bottom of the page. It lists the date of the sale, the condition as listed and what it sold for without shipping:

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That’s great, thanks for the tutorial! I’m going to check it out!
 
War_in_D said:
It only works if Reverb has a category for whatever it is your looking for. The amount of sales history matters too. But to find it, you have to search under Reverbs "official" description. Meaning, that if you're wanting to know what the going rate is on say a Mesa Dual Rec Multi Watt.. you can't just randomly type in "Mesa Multi Watt" to get the past sales history. If you start typing in "Mesa Boogie Dual..." you get all the suggested searches from Reverb:

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Then if you pick one of their searches it'll take you to a kind of "landing page" that will have information about the product:

View attachment 269277

That information is a link, and it'll take you to another page that has actual listings and will have all the past sold history at the bottom of the page. It lists the date of the sale, the condition as listed and what it sold for without shipping:

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So someone got a 3 channel Multi Watt in Excellent condition for $1,100?

Dang
 
311splawndude said:
So someone got a 3 channel Multi Watt in Excellent condition for $1,100?

Dang
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Plus god knows how much in shipping lol.

I've been selling on Reverb like crazy this fall. Everything I post on here and TGP also goes on Reverb for a bit higher price, and it sells. There's just a huge pool of buyers on Reverb, and the platform makes it super easy. I ship everything via Pirate Ship now.

Yeah there's more risk than doing PPFF on here, but much less stressful than endless bumping only to finally sell to a much more savy audience at a bigger loss. Don't get me wrong, I'll always list here too but my gear sells on the Verb, 'nuff said.

If I lived somewhere like LA or NY I'd do a lot more local deals, but in WY it's laughable. I found a local FB ad for a G12T-75 for $30. Messaged the guy, he said he thought it was 12 ohms because of the speaker diameter. Then he went looking for it and ultimately claimed it was lost in his barn :LOL:
 
It does indeed look like prices are starting to come down.
I'm about to turn 50 in a couple months and have been watching for an LP to purchase...
 
harddriver said:
What you're not seeing is the massive amount of gear being returned to these retailers within the 30 day free return policies..................People are floating these charges on their credit cards trying out gear and then returning it......You can see that mentality has permeated into private sales and Paypal will make you refund an item regardless......... While I understand the buyers wanting some protection from scammers they have ruined private sales by abusing these policies.

I would be afraid to sell anything of considerable value these days via Paypal, you better hope you are dealing with someone honest and just not tirekicking gear that if you are lucky will return your item to you in the same condition you sold it...... if it gets returned at all! And if it is a scammer buyer you may issue your refund and not get your item back at all......it's happened to a few guys on here already........

I have seen a major slowdown in 2023, you can see it in the classifieds here. Identical amps I sold easily on CL in 2022 are not moving at all and what's weird is the Craigslist listings of decent gear have seemed to evaporate to nothing. I guess people are just not listing things. People want that guarantee of returning their purchases up to 90 days after they received it and play the shit out of it or they are just test driving it.

I know it's not popular to hear but it has everything to do with a devaluation of the dollar. Inflation is basically a hidden tax to allow the government free reign to print fiat currency without oversight.
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I hear you. I’m selling a Rick Beato Gibson, and I refuse to list it online. I don’t care, I’ll take less than what they sell for supposedly on Reverb just to avoid the PayPal bullshit.

also, I donated to the trucker rally last year. I had one of the original PayPal accounts from 1997 or 98.
I deleted my account when they started talking about finding people $2000. Fuck them.
 
War_in_D said:
It only works if Reverb has a category for whatever it is your looking for. The amount of sales history matters too. But to find it, you have to search under Reverbs "official" description. Meaning, that if you're wanting to know what the going rate is on say a Mesa Dual Rec Multi Watt.. you can't just randomly type in "Mesa Multi Watt" to get the past sales history. If you start typing in "Mesa Boogie Dual..." you get all the suggested searches from Reverb:
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You can search by whatever term you want....

For instance...search Fryette

After the results pop up, select filter.

From the menu on the left, scroll down and select "Show Only"

Then check the box for "Sold Listings"

it will then show you everything that sold with the term Fryette in the listing.
 
RedB4Black said:
You can search by whatever term you want....

For instance...search Fryette

After the results pop up, select filter.

From the menu on the left, scroll down and select "Show Only"

Then check the box for "Sold Listings"

it will then show you everything that sold with the term Fryette in the listing.
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If you search that way, it will show you what has sold but the price listed may not reflect the actual price it sold for.
 
Locally in the past week i saw a clean one owner recently serviced 1980's 2x12 100 watt jcm combo for 1100 that I had to resist buying because I just don't need it.
and there is an endless stream of dual and triple rec's for 1-1200-1400 every week
plenty of 50 watt EVH 6l6 og models for 650-700
 
MTS said:
Locally in the past week i saw a clean one owner recently serviced 1980's 2x12 100 watt jcm combo for 1100 that I had to resist buying because I just don't need it.
and there is an endless stream of dual and triple rec's for 1-1200-1400 every week
plenty of 50 watt EVH 6l6 og models for 650-700
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There have been a few $1200 triple rec's for sale in the past few months locally, and it's taken a lot of self control not to grab one.
 
I wish the prices for mark IV heads would come back down. I really miss mine but they have literally doubled or more since I sold mine in 2014 :(
I've got a few guitars that I could sell, but after the upgrades I've done to them (new trems, pickups etc.) I would probably lose money on all of them so in the closet they stay and in the gig rotation they stay
 
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