JOE HOLMES... ???

[Chubtone]

Sorry man.... I should have realized when you mentioned falling with Holmes above.

Steve

I thought you knew. Why else would you have invited me to that romantic, 3 day weekend in Michigan? Egnater amp building seminar? Please.

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry man.... I should have realized when you mentioned falling with Holmes above.

Steve

I thought you knew. Why else would you have invited me to that romantic, 3 day weekend in Michigan? Egnater amp building seminar? Please.

Are you coming or not? Stop being coy...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Here is a crappy picture of the diagram of joes rig but you should still be able to see whats going on.

In the picture of his rig the pcm 41 is setup with everything off besides delay multiply and level which are at 12:00, wish I could see whats going on in the back of it.

Interesting. It appears he has a line out from the modded Marshall feeding a cheapo Boss SE-70 SUPER efx processor into 2 SDE-3000s with different delay settings. It makes sense to me that he is using the SE-70 for a slight pitch shift... With the delays, it would make it sound somewhat like a Eventide H3000 set for stereo, delayed micropitchshift. So this goes stereo to the two outside 4x12s through the stereo power amp. Then he's using the PCM-41 in the loop for delay on his "straight" guitar signal, prolly just mixing in a bit of delay into the middle cab...

I'm sure this would sound damn good, but I'd rather have an H3000 and get rid of the 2 SDE-3000s and the SE-70...

The SDE-3000 is a great delay though... I always had one in my rig back in the day... prices now are stupid though...

Steve

 

[Strat+Marshall]

Interesting. It appears he has a line out from the modded Marshall feeding a cheapo Boss SE-70 SUPER efx processor into 2 SDE-3000s with different delay settings. It makes sense to me that he is using the SE-70 for a slight pitch shift... With the delays, it would make it sound somewhat like a Eventide H3000 set for stereo, delayed micropitchshift. So this goes stereo to the two outside 4x12s through the stereo power amp. Then he's using the PCM-41 in the loop for delay on his "straight" guitar signal, prolly just mixing in a bit of delay into the middle cab...

I'm sure this would sound damn good, but I'd rather have an H3000 and get rid of the 2 SDE-3000s and the SE-70...

The SDE-3000 is a great delay though... I always had one in my rig back in the day... prices now are stupid though...

Steve

Don't know if thats what he is doing but it could be one use. The article might tell me but it is in japanese.

The PCM41 is not providing any delay unless he changed his settings on them for the picture.

 

[Anonymous]

Interesting. It appears he has a line out from the modded Marshall feeding a cheapo Boss SE-70 SUPER efx processor into 2 SDE-3000s with different delay settings. It makes sense to me that he is using the SE-70 for a slight pitch shift... With the delays, it would make it sound somewhat like a Eventide H3000 set for stereo, delayed micropitchshift. So this goes stereo to the two outside 4x12s through the stereo power amp. Then he's using the PCM-41 in the loop for delay on his "straight" guitar signal, prolly just mixing in a bit of delay into the middle cab...

I'm sure this would sound damn good, but I'd rather have an H3000 and get rid of the 2 SDE-3000s and the SE-70...

The SDE-3000 is a great delay though... I always had one in my rig back in the day... prices now are stupid though...

Steve

Don't know if thats what he is doing but it could be one use. The article might tell me but it is in japanese.

The PCM41 is not providing any delay unless he changed his settings on them for the picture.

Yeah, he could be doing something else - the SE-70 does alot of things, however, what picture are you speaking of? I only see a mockup diagram - The PCM-41 is a mockup and could be set to do anything in his actual rig... I still guess he is using it for a bit of delay on the mostly dry signal...

Steve

 

[Strat+Marshall]

Interesting. It appears he has a line out from the modded Marshall feeding a cheapo Boss SE-70 SUPER efx processor into 2 SDE-3000s with different delay settings. It makes sense to me that he is using the SE-70 for a slight pitch shift... With the delays, it would make it sound somewhat like a Eventide H3000 set for stereo, delayed micropitchshift. So this goes stereo to the two outside 4x12s through the stereo power amp. Then he's using the PCM-41 in the loop for delay on his "straight" guitar signal, prolly just mixing in a bit of delay into the middle cab...

I'm sure this would sound damn good, but I'd rather have an H3000 and get rid of the 2 SDE-3000s and the SE-70...

The SDE-3000 is a great delay though... I always had one in my rig back in the day... prices now are stupid though...

Steve

Don't know if thats what he is doing but it could be one use. The article might tell me but it is in japanese.

The PCM41 is not providing any delay unless he changed his settings on them for the picture.

Yeah, he could be doing something else - the SE-70 does alot of things, however, what picture are you speaking of? I only see a mockup diagram - The PCM-41 is a mockup and could be set to do anything in his actual rig... I still guess he is using it for a bit of delay on the mostly dry signal...

Steve

Got another pic showing his rig and you can see the pcm41 settings. Ill try and get that up somehow too.

 

[Anonymous]

Don't know if thats what he is doing but it could be one use. The article might tell me but it is in japanese.

The PCM41 is not providing any delay unless he changed his settings on them for the picture.

Yeah, he could be doing something else - the SE-70 does alot of things, however, what picture are you speaking of? I only see a mockup diagram - The PCM-41 is a mockup and could be set to do anything in his actual rig... I still guess he is using it for a bit of delay on the mostly dry signal...

Steve

Got another pic showing his rig and you can see the pcm41 settings. Ill try and get that up somehow too.

Cool... What is your guess on what he's using the PCM for if not delay?

Steve

 

[itsme]

He uses XTC's quite a bit

 

[Anonymous]

you guys can come up with some crazy shit. must be overly bored? that guy played with ozzy for a minute. the youtube could have been anybody and his tone is defintely not all that. i just got a call and was told that he is hanging at jakeelee`s house

 

[Anonymous]

basically he is/was the loser of all OZZY`S guitar players. dicuss please can`t wait.

 

[MrDan666]

Cool... What is your guess on what he's using the PCM for if not delay?

Steve

Ok here's my guess...

He's using a W/D/W rig, with the Marshall powering the center cab and the left/right are powered via the Poweramp. The PCM41 is probably only setup for a very little bit of chorus in the amps FX loop just to wet the center cab just enough to smooth the tone a bit.

The lineout on the amp is feeding the SE-70, which is setup for mono input/stereo outputs. my guess is the main chorus sound or pitch shift, comes from the SE-70 and the stereo outputs each feed an input of an SDE-3000 (because the SDE's are mono). The SDE-3000s are each set for delay with probably a hint of slow mod, and they feed into the Poweramp.

Just my guess, but what i described there is definitly a rig which would NAIL his tone IMO!

 

[Anonymous]

you guys can come up with some crazy shit. must be overly bored? that guy played with ozzy for a minute. the youtube could have been anybody and his tone is defintely not all that. i just got a call and was told that he is hanging at jakeelee`s house

If you are looking to get a rise out of the people here discussing Holmes, you're wasting your time.

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

obviously because most on here wouldn`t know joe holmes from ya know

 

[Anonymous]

Cool... What is your guess on what he's using the PCM for if not delay?

Steve

Ok here's my guess...

He's using a W/D/W rig, with the Marshall powering the center cab and the left/right are powered via the Poweramp. The PCM41 is probably only setup for a very little bit of chorus in the amps FX loop just to wet the center cab just enough to smooth the tone a bit.

The lineout on the amp is feeding the SE-70, which is setup for mono input/stereo outputs. my guess is the main chorus sound or pitch shift, comes from the SE-70 and the stereo outputs each feed an input of an SDE-3000 (because the SDE's are mono). The SDE-3000s are each set for delay with probably a hint of slow mod, and they feed into the Poweramp.

Just my guess, but what i described there is definitly a rig which would NAIL his tone IMO!

So basically, you agree completely with my previous post saying exactly the same thing, huh?

Actually, I said the PCM-41 was being used for a bit of delay (not chorus) to smooth out the mostly dry signal to the center cab... but otherwise, we agree!

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

obviously because most on here wouldn`t know joe holmes from ya know

Hey... well at least you've amused yourself... I have no idea what you're talking about, but that's cool...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

ya know would be john holmes, all of above to early for most here. most talk like they were there when the late 70`s came about.

 

[Anonymous]

fuck zakk but that fucker has been with ozzy for 20 years get outta here

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basically he is/was the loser of all OZZY`S guitar players. dicuss please can`t wait.

That description sounds more like Cakk Wylde to me.[/quote]

 

[MrDan666]

So basically, you agree completely with my previous post saying exactly the same thing, huh?

Actually, I said the PCM-41 was being used for a bit of delay (not chorus) to smooth out the mostly dry signal to the center cab... but otherwise, we agree!

Steve

Yup we agree!

The only reason why i guessed Chorus in the center cab is because usually if you use delay in the center cab aswell as the two outer cabs, it loses a little bit of the clarity and punch (which is the sole purpose of the dry cab in a W/D/W rig).

Chorus would just smooth it out everso slightly, but still keep the clarity and really let it cut thru in the mix, whilst letting the outer cabs do all the delays

 

[MrDan666]

I still think the worst guitarist Ozzy had was Brad Gillis, I'd rather listen to this Joe Holmes any day.

+1.. Brad Gillis does nothing for me!

 

[Gainfreak]

I'm looking for savage levels of Marshally gain...

Steve

Who isnt?

Marshall guys that are straight.

This is an imposibility. All people who play stock Marshalls are clearly gay. Its the people who play modded Marshalls who are totally hetero.