John4021 Ghosted me with missing money on guitar

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NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Maybe try a dictionary next time and come up with words that fit. 🤷‍♀️

Gatekeeping is trying to keep people set in a way and/or out of involvement in something.
Not what I'm doing at all, I've just known many of the members here for years.
So yes, they absolutely are worth more to me.
I consider a number of them friends.

Sorry if that bothers you, not trying to keep anyone out of whatever perceived club you believe is happening.
If I was gatekeeping I wouldn't be having an open giveaway available for anyone to join.
If I thought you were an alt, would have already wrote you off.

But your response is on a whole other level of twisting words.
And I agree that your post is full of gaslighting and insane.
Not sure what your deal is, but I dunno... get over it?
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You have some real issues you need to work on.

Also, for not being bothered and not caring, you seem to devote a lot of time making things about you.

Like I said, fucking get over yourself.

You are wasting my time.

I have to question someone whom spends so much time sifting through others post history.

Not healthy behavior at all.

You seem fixated on things that are false.

I won't be wasting my time with you anymore.

You can also remove me from your give away, as I don't really care.

If doing cool things for the forum entitled you to behave like this, I don't want any part of it.

I don't care one bit about this bullshit, you are off base and out of line.

Have a great day. I rest my case.

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Just to summarize my thoughts on the situation before it gets too crazy. I never expected the mods to have a way to send me the money I'm out. What I expected was some meditation between both parties. John has obviously tuned out hearing any reason in my arguments so it could've been beneficial for someone in a position he respects to encourage him to do the right thing. That's the type of help I was hoping for but I get it and now I know a little bit more about how the forum operates, and I don't intend that as a slight, just I know what to expect now.

@John4021, really disappointed someone with such a long standing track record here chose to fight me at every step of making this deal right. Even if you want to ignore me or try to make me out to be something I'm not - kinda crazy to call me a scam artist when you took money from me. I think you should also realize I know more about your situation than I revealed here but I couldn't bring myself to resort to tearing you down at a personal level. If you think through the situation with a level head I'll be around if you decide to make things right at some point, and I don't mean just with the money.
 
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simonfrewler said:
You have some real issues you need to work on.

Also, for not being bothered and not caring, you seem to devote a lot of time making things about you.

Like I said, fucking get over yourself.

You are wasting my time.

I have to question someone whom spends so much time sifting through others post history.

Not healthy behavior at all.

You seem fixated on things that are false.

I won't be wasting my time with you anymore.

You can also remove me from your give away, as I don't really care.

If doing cool things for the forum entitled you to behave like this, I don't want any part of it.

I don't care one bit about this bullshit, you are off base and out of line.

Have a great day. I rest my case.

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Now you're just saying things that are outright ridiculous and imbecilic.
No one cares enough about you here to bother "sifting through your post history" or anyone's for that matter.
None of that is true, you're just a psycho and the only one making anything about them.
Should have known you'd have a meltdown and go off the rails sooner than later given your circle of friends.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Now you're just saying things that are outright ridiculous and imbecilic.
No one cares enough about you here to bother "sifting through your post history" or anyone's for that matter.
None of that is true, you're just a psycho and the only one making anything about them.
Should have known you'd have a meltdown and go off the rails sooner than later given your circle of friends.
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Who is his circle of friends?!!!
 
japetus said:
It's understandable. He was a polarizing figure, to say the least. I am fishing in the rain. View attachment 394550
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Polarizing to people online, sure.
He took his psychotic bs too far and involved my kids with his mental issues irl.
Because of him and his deviant friends is the reason I no longer have social media.
When people start sending disgustingly altered pics of you and your family to others, it's gone way too far.
When people start mailing you packages full of disgusting literal shit to your businesses, it's gone way too far.
When you have to get law enforcement involved for it to stop, it's gone way too far.
Hope he's rotting in hell.
A few others should join him.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Polarizing to people online, sure.
He took his psychotic bs too far and involved my kids with his mental issues irl.
Because of him and his deviant friends is the reason I no longer have social media.
When people start sending disgustingly altered pics of you and your family to others, it's gone way too far.
When people start mailing you packages full of disgusting literal shit to your businesses, it's gone way too far.
When you have to get law enforcement involved for it to stop, it's gone way too far.
Hope he's rotting in hell.
A few others should join him.
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Wow, I had no idea it got to this level.
 
japetus said:
Wow, I had no idea it got to this level.
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He followed me from one forum to the next for years and would start accounts to try and get friendly with me after I blew him off over his drunken rants and over some thread about signature guitars he pm'd me about on another forum. It became a huge issue and why when people bring him up like he's a saint of some kind bothers me. I understand he had issues, and I tried to avoid him when I could and live and let live. Only found out that it was specifically him sending the packages because he was dumb enough to post his address in a PM which had the same zip they came from. So, I sent law enforcement his way.
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He would cry that he was the victim and get other pos involved to dogpile on me. Some of those assholes still do that to this day and I never did a damn thing to any of them. Morons on forums calling him a legend is sickening. He was a predator and this stuff was just the tip of the iceberg. To think that it all started over a thread about women's signature guitars where I stated that they should be earned like anyone else. Want to send a bunch of unhinged liberals off the deep end? That did it. Anyways, I'm over it.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
He followed me from one forum to the next for years and would start accounts to try and get friendly with me after I blew him off over his drunken rants and over some thread about signature guitars he pm'd me about on another forum. It became a huge issue and why when people bring him up like he's a saint of some kind bothers me. I understand he had issues, and I tried to avoid him when I could and live and let live. Only found out that it was specifically him sending the packages because he was dumb enough to post his address in a PM which had the same zip they came from. So, I sent law enforcement his way.
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He would cry that he was the victim and get other pos involved to dogpile on me. Some of those assholes still do that to this day and I never did a damn thing to any of them. Morons on forums calling him a legend is sickening. He was a predator and this stuff was just the tip of the iceberg. To think that it all started over a thread about women's signature guitars where I stated that they should be earned like anyone else. Want to send a bunch of unhinged liberals off the deep end? That did it. Anyways, I'm over it.
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That is wild, well he is gone now, I guess.
 
japetus said:
That is wild, well he is gone now, I guess.
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Anyways, way too much drama in this thread.
How are you? How'd your fishing go?
My son and his friends go fishing almost every morning before school.
There are so many places to go here.
Always cleaning out one of the coolers that he "forgot" had dead fish in it for the umteenth time. :ROFLMAO:o_O
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Anyways, way too much drama in this thread.
How are you? How'd your fishing go?
My son and his friends go fishing almost every morning before school.
There are so many places to go here.
Always cleaning out one of the coolers that he "forgot" had dead fish in it for the umteenth time. :ROFLMAO:o_O
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I am watching the St Louis Cardinals home opening game and drinking a 2023 Bourbon County. I caught a couple small bass, nothing to speak of. I believe fishing to be one of the most fufilling things in life.
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DanTravis62 said:
I had my own issues with Donnie (and his friends) IRL which is why i'm in the same boat as lisa - i'm not going to dance on the guys grave or anything, I know he had problems. But if you've ever wondered why I haven't participated much in the RIP threads, that's why.
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Definitely am not trying to come off bitchy, prude, or whatever or dance on his grave, either.
Don't want people to feel like they have to walk on eggshells around me or anything like that, because they don't.
I take what I dish out and mostly pretty chill and even if I'm not, still am.
Love this place and 99% of the members even if they don't think I do.

Donnie was not a situation that I took lightly and unfortunately one that evolved into that path for whatever reason he wanted to take it that far.
It wasn't normal, it was extreme. Beyond extreme and completely unnecessary for him to take it that far.
I admit that absolutely talked shit to him years earlier over things I felt he deserved.
But in the end it was not some knee jerk Karen reaction that happened, it was really bad and occurred over like 4 years and didn't even know it was him doing some of the things until later on. All of the alts on different sites, some attacking me, others trying to be my friend. The packages in the mail. The stalking of my children. It was insane.

Doesn't surprise me that he was involved in issues with others irl.
 
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